New Headrush pedalboard: Headrush Prime

[JCW308]

I think you may be missing the point somewhat. There are two issues associated with there being no desktop app available for Headrush units. First, programming a new rig on any of the units requires that the user either sit on the floor or move the unit to a tabletop. In reality this is very tedious as compared to programming presets from a computer screen. Secondly, the “hands-free” control mode of the Headrush units may be easy to use on the full-sized Pedalboards…by someone with good eyesight. However, on the MX-5 the screen is too small to see from six feet above the unit, especially on a dark stage with lighting effects present, by users with even good eyesight. In reality, someone with non-perfect eyesight, the screen on the MX-5 is not useable for live performance…and the same is true for the Pedalboard as well. If the Headrush units are Ever going to be considered “professional“ equipment by the masses of guitarists, not just a dedicated small user base, it will need to have a desktop app.

This thread is about HR Prime. Not MX5.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Who cares how good the screen is or isn't when the captures add ~30ms of latency?

 

[la szum]

Say what now? If you can't read that screen from six feet above the ground, you've got some extremely serious problems. Please look for "hands-free mode" photos. The numbers shown are GIGANTIC. This is NOT "another problem".

Haha! Wow. How did I earn the privilege to deserve all of that??

Pretty sure I can voice my direct experience without me needing to even remotely appease what you think I should think.

Got it?

 

[JCW308]

Haha! Wow. How did I earn the privilege to deserve all of that??

Pretty sure I can voice my direct experience without me needing to even remotely appease what you think I should think.

Got it?

Please see an eye doctor.

 

[Daveporter33765]

This thread is about HR Prime. Not MX5.

The LCD screen on the Prime is the same as that on the Pedalboard; therefore, my comments apply equally to the Prime. The lack of a desktop app is a ”deal breaking” problem for many, many potential users.

 

[la szum]

Your/our experience is irrelevant!

 

[Daveporter33765]

Your/our experience is irrelevant!

When the Headrush Pedalboard was first released I was still using two Eleven Racks. I bought the Pedalboard because it was billed as having advanced Eleven technology Ina modern format. I really wanted to like the Pedalboard and continued to use it for a couple years…hoping that a desktop app would be released eventually. However, I experienced a number of serious problems with the Pedalboard (motherboard failure-Rainbow of Death-and four switch failures)…once losing two switches during a gig. That is when I did some research and learned that I was far from alone experiencing reliability issues. So, I gave up and moved on. I hope the Prime is a better designed and built unit and that Headrush develops a desktop app as many, many, many users have been asking for for years.

 

[JCW308]

The LCD screen on the Prime is the same as that on the Pedalboard; therefore, my comments apply equally to the Prime. The lack of a desktop app is a ”deal breaking” problem for many, many potential users.

Why in the world would anyone need a desktop editor with a HR unit? Are people that lazy?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Why in the world would anyone need a desktop editor with a HR unit? Are people that lazy?

Because they don't want to bend down to the ground To adjust their presets Or put a 40 pound 6' wide pedal board on the desk to make adjustments?

 

[Fireproof]

Because they don't want to bend down to the ground To adjust their presets Or put a 40 pound 6' wide pedal board on the desk to make adjustments?

If it were just 75% or 80% of the size, I would dig it. Well, if it also had better tones, and no capture lag too, LOL.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Why in the world would anyone need a desktop editor with a HR unit? Are people that lazy?

Why would anyone need a starter you can operate by turning the key in your car seat? Are people too lazy to get out and crank it by hand?

 

[DrewJD82]

Sh*t, while we’re at it, why would anyone need water? Gatorade exists and that has electrolytes.

 

[mbenigni]

Because they don't want to bend down to the ground To adjust their presets Or put a 40 pound 6' wide pedal board on the desk to make adjustments?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Built To ScaleTM

 

[Daveporter33765]

Why in the world would anyone need a desktop editor with a HR unit? Are people that lazy?

My comment has nothing to do with being lazy. Have you attempted to program many Rigs at one time and set the Pedalboard up for gig use? Doing so requires one to either sit on the floor for hours to operate the touch screen or move the huge Pedalboard to a desktop to program Rigs and organize the them. If all you do is add a Rig here and there, perhaps the lack of a desktop app is not an issue. However, for those attempting to make large numbers of changes to the programming of the Pedalboard frequently to accommodate using the board on tour dates or for recording dates, a desktop app is a real necessity. The Headrush units will never be considered “professional grade” by large numbers of guitarists until a desktop app is available, the hardware quality is greatly improved and the latency of the unit is reduced.

 

[la szum]

My comment has nothing to do with being lazy. Have you attempted to program many Rigs at one time and set the Pedalboard up for gig use? Doing so requires one to either sit on the floor for hours to operate the touch screen or move the huge Pedalboard to a desktop to program Rigs and organize the them. If all you do is add a Rig here and there, perhaps the lack of a desktop app is not an issue. However, for those attempting to make large numbers of changes to the programming of the Pedalboard frequently to accommodate using the board on tour dates or for recording dates, a desktop app is a real necessity. The Headrush units will never be considered “professional grade” by large numbers of guitarists until a desktop app is available, the hardware quality is greatly improved and the latency of the unit is reduced.

He's just being an ass. Seems to relish it, too.

You do you.

 

[JCW308]

My comment has nothing to do with being lazy. Have you attempted to program many Rigs at one time and set the Pedalboard up for gig use? Doing so requires one to either sit on the floor for hours to operate the touch screen or move the huge Pedalboard to a desktop to program Rigs and organize the them. If all you do is add a Rig here and there, perhaps the lack of a desktop app is not an issue. However, for those attempting to make large numbers of changes to the programming of the Pedalboard frequently to accommodate using the board on tour dates or for recording dates, a desktop app is a real necessity. The Headrush units will never be considered “professional grade” by large numbers of guitarists until a desktop app is available, the hardware quality is greatly improved and the latency of the unit is reduced.

Yes and it's not a big deal. I just put it on my desk and it works fine. I get it though for super small screens like HX Stomp or something. With a 7-inch touch screen, not having a desktop editor is really not a big deal. It's has never been a big deal with the HR. You are just jumping on the Quad Cortex Whiner Wagon (tm).

 

[the-trooper]

You are just jumping on the Quad Cortex Whiner Wagon (tm).

People have been asking Headrush for desktop editor before Quad cortex even existed.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Tell me you don't have to deal with working professionals without saying the words

 

[Daveporter33765]

Yes and it's not a big deal. I just put it on my desk and it works fine. I get it though for super small screens like HX Stomp or something. With a 7-inch touch screen, not having a desktop editor is really not a big deal. It's has never been a big deal with the HR. You are just jumping on the Quad Cortex Whiner Wagon (tm).

Try inputting 45 new rigs at once while sitting on the floor because you need to not only program the amp, cab, and effects train…but also program expression pedal use for each Rig (using your feet to test limits). Then turn around in a couple days and do it all again because you are working with a different band for a few days…and then repeat every time you play with a different band with a different song list. I moved to a Fractal unit because it is so much easier to program using the desktop app and because the Axe-Fx III is much more robust and gig-worthy. I have no experience with the QC so I’m not on their “whiner wagon”. In reality it is you who are on the Headrush Excuse Patrol.

I bought a Headrush Pedalboard within a few months of its release. I have also been active on the Headrush Forum for years. The number one request long-term customers have posted over the years has been a request for a desktop app. So, I am far from alone. I am thrilled that you are happy without a desktop app, but you speak only for yourself…not the many, many users who do need a desktop app.