I think we have finally reached Peak Boutique Pickup B/Sh$t !

BenIfin said:
Hey. This is a forum and here is my subjective opinion.

^^^ Thats actually *not* my point *at all* .... I think this video below encapsulates everything there is to know about Throbak USA Magnets or PRS Tuning Pegs or $1000 Gibson PAF's etc.... or pretty much anything to do with selling the bullshit around Vintage gear.

The 2 actual real unsuspecting people in this clip highlight my point precisely.



Ben
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What's the point? I am curious what are your conclusions.
 
BenIfin said:
Hey. This is a forum and here is my subjective opinion.

^^^ Thats actually *not* my point *at all* .... I think this video below encapsulates everything there is to know about Throbak USA Magnets or PRS Tuning Pegs or $1000 Gibson PAF's etc.... or pretty much anything to do with selling the bullshit around Vintage gear.

The 2 actual real unsuspecting people in this clip highlight my point precisely.



Ben
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Yes people who can’t tell the difference shouldn’t buy this stuff because they could be easily conned.
 
SKU said:
What's the point? I am curious what are your conclusions.
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Eagle said:
Yes people who can’t tell the difference shouldn’t buy this stuff because they could be easily conned.
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People are very complex in most situations.

But suggestiveness is not one of them

If you tell *anyone* upfront that product X will make your pickup sound like X .... and they then pay you stupid amounts of money to do the mod ... they you as the buyer will immediately self-justify that you have (a) not just done the right thing .... (b) that it is actually doing what is claimed and (c) the seller will re-inforce that you have now re-gained the Holy Grail tone you have always wanted.

Eagle .... it seems like you are having and making a good living out of selling vintage stuff ..... seriously ... good luck to you ..... more power to you.

My only point is that i.m.h.o, this is only possible because people are so easily "manipulated" / "convinced" into this world my alchemy and mythology.

But hey ..... I want to be absolutely clear ..... I am not in any way saying anything you are doing is even remotely not good .... its absolutely and unequivocally not ..... if someone wants crystal-lattice-enhanced Tubes .... and they are "gullible" enough to believe and be convinced to buy them ...... I'd probably happily take their money too :)

Ben
 
TSJMajesty said:
This one..., that Paul had since what, the 80's...? What I'm wondering is, if it's impact on a guitar is as significant as he says, then why has it taken so long to put them on his guitars?? :unsure:
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Yep .... when I first saw that video I had 3 immediate thoughts

1 => he must be surrounded by "yes" people who treat his "ideas" as gospel .... oh .... and they dont want to jeopardise their $$$ pay packet

2 => who the hell in marketing and promo let it be made and even more importantly let it be posted online ....... Im thinking probably see point 1 above

3 => from a personal respect point of view ... I really admire the guy and PRS .... they aint my cup of tea but hey, they sell ....... it just felt very much like an "own goal" that should never have happened combined with a bit of "viral bad meme" / "jumping the shark" kind of moment.

In my [not] scientifically based assessment ... I refer to it as the "U2 Syndrome"

A band / entity or brand that is so reliant on one persona get so big and so many people are being fed by it that -noone- dares speak up.

I could easily "rattle off" -no pun intended- a shit load of U2 albums that never ever would have been green-lit to record or gotten any band a record deal -except for that fact- that its U2.

If ever there was a great band that needs someoone to honeslty say to them .... "hey lads, these last 70 or 80 songs a pretty shit" its U2.

But there is just tooooo much $$$$ cash flow coming in to tooo many people for that to ever happen.

Still ...... they are super successful and Im not ...... so w.t.a.f do I know ...... more fool me !

Ben
 
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BenIfin said:
People are very complex in most situations.

But suggestiveness is not one of them

If you tell *anyone* upfront that product X will make your pickup sound like X .... and they then pay you stupid amounts of money to do the mod ... they you as the buyer will immediately self-justify that you have (a) not just done the right thing .... (b) that it is actually doing what is claimed and (c) the seller will re-inforce that you have now re-gained the Holy Grail tone you have always wanted.

Eagle .... it seems like you are having and making a good living out of selling vintage stuff ..... seriously ... good luck to you ..... more power to you.

My only point is that i.m.h.o, this is only possible because people are so easily "manipulated" / "convinced" into this world my alchemy and mythology.

But hey ..... I want to be absolutely clear ..... I am not in any way saying anything you are doing is even remotely not good .... its absolutely and unequivocally not ..... if someone wants crystal-lattice-enhanced Tubes .... and they are "gullible" enough to believe and be convinced to buy them ...... I'd probably happily take their money too :)

Ben
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I don’t buy or sell vintage, I am a tech who specialises in high end, vintage, I also authenticate stuff, vintage,ex rock star. I get your point but nobody is being manipulated or cheated. It’s fine art that is all.
 
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BenIfin said:
Yep .... when I first saw that video I had 3 immediate thoughts

1 => he must be surrounded by "yes" people who treat his "ideas" as gospel .... oh .... and they dont want to jeopardise their $$$ pay packet

2 => who the hell in marketing and promo let it be made and even more importantly let it be posted online ....... Im thinking probably see point 1 above

3 => from a personal respect point of view ... I really admire the guy and PRS .... they aint my cup of tea but hey, they sell ....... it just felt very much like an "own goal" that should never have happened combined with a bit of "viral bad meme" / "jumping the shark" kind of moment.

In my [not] scientifically based assessment ... I refer to it as the "U2 Syndrome"

A band / entity or brand that is so reliant on one persona get so big and so many people are being fed by it that -noone- dares speak up.

I could easily "rattle off" -no pun intended- a shit load of U2 albums that never ever would have been green-lit to record or gotten any band a record deal -except for that fact- that its U2.

If ever there was a great band that needs someoone to honeslty say to them .... "hey lads, these last 70 or 80 songs a pretty shit" its U2.

But there is just tooooo much $$$$ cash flow coming in to tooo many people for that to ever happen.

Still ...... they are super successful and Im not ...... so w.t.a.f do I know ...... more fool me !

Ben
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Love the 3 PRS I have left (was 5), well - hope to love the CU24 once I swap the pu's today or tomorrow.

Going forward, they have lost me, for multiple reasons.

1 - Everything is nitro now, and I hate it!!
2 - The tuner marketing mumbo jumbo bs is so far beyond ludicrous that I have not words! Just one example, but this is one of the worse.
3 - Prices are outrageous now. I can get similar quality, with pu's I love from the start for much less.
4 - Every one I've had came with a poorly cut nut.
5 - I don't like their treble bleeds at all. They are just fookin' odd.
 
Warmart said:
Love the 3 PRS I have left (was 5), well - hope to love the CU24 once I swap the pu's today or tomorrow.

Going forward, they have lost me, for multiple reasons.

1 - Everything is nitro now, and I hate it!!
2 - The tuner marketing mumbo jumbo bs is so far beyond ludicrous that I have not words! Just one example, but this is one of the worse.
3 - Prices are outrageous now. I can get similar quality, with pu's I love from the start for much less.
4 - Every one I've had came with a poorly cut nut.
5 - I don't like their treble bleeds at all. They are just fookin' odd.
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Nitro is OK out it just needs to be thin and hard and if that is right that's all that matters. Nitro ages nicely though.
Headstock mass makes a difference but old school Kuson style are about as light and made of steel .
I have never liked his pickups much but the newer ones get better .
 
Eagle said:
Nitro is OK out it just needs to be thin and hard and if that is right that's all that matters. Nitro ages nicely though.
Headstock mass makes a difference but old school Kuson style are about as light and made of steel .
I have never liked his pickups much but the newer ones get better .
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I'm sure it can be, just the single PRS I HAD with it was reacting to my wall hanger and it was sticky, just didn't care for it I guess.

I think I may have liked some of the old Dragons but only from what I've heard in other's playing. Never had one in my hands. Also have heard tons good about 57/08, 59/09, 58/15LT and \\m// but have never had any of those.
 
My '97 PRS CU22 has Dragon I Pickups in it. They are cool. A little sizzly/crispy
on the top end. If that can be a thing. :idk
 
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