Mongillo19
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For sure! Again didn't want to ask if it was useless
I figured it has merit for those new to modeling or new to fractal. Was just curious if it had some secret sauce or something
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I figured it has merit for those new to modeling or new to fractal. Was just curious if it had some secret sauce or something
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I’ve been curious about Cooper’s class. I’m never stuck trying to figure out something, but I also under utilize the thing considerably a lot of the times and it’d just be cool to know what it’s capable of and how to get there, even if I don’t know what exactly it is I want to do right now.
Frodebro
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I think the biggest advantage to Cooper’s class (for people already comfortable with the platform) is that he digs in deep, and will show you things that you didn’t even realize were available. I’ve considered ponying up the $$ just for the guided tour into the hidden rooms.
State of Epicicity
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The Savage models are truly great. To me they’re the best alternative for anyone who likes to use an OD pedal to get the most defined metal tune possible. To me the FAS Stealth Blue has more character than the Savage models though, like the best of EVH tones. YMMV.
I think it depends on your pickup configuration and IR choice. I recorded this when it was first made available:
EVH Stealth 100W Dynamics - Antisocial / Anthrax
Demoing the dynamics of the EVH Stealth 100W Blue Channel model in the Axe-FX III Firmware 23.03.
This was with a noiseless single coil in the neck and a humbucker in the bridge, just using my volume knobs, treating it as if it were a single channel amp like a Plexi, where you might want to control your tone changes between clean and dirty with just your guitar instead of amp channel changes.
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I disagree. IMO, not much “deeper” than whatever else you’ll find on YouTube.
deathbyguitar
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Random question - On an Axe-FX III, anyone know if it's possible to split Input 2 for use with 2 separate instruments? I'm currently using Input 2L and Input 3 for 2nd guitar and bass but was hoping I'd be able to route bass through 2R in order to free up my inputs 3 and 4 for other stuff. Ultimate goal is to use the Axe for processing drums (live audio interface for Superior Drummer), 2 guitars, bass and vocals (sort of) all at the same time. Very close to having that all work.
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But it’s all right there is the thing. How would you go about finding a video on something you don’t know exists? That was my point, and why I used the term ‘guided tour’.
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Yes, it just involves splitting the stereo input into independent left and right signal paths.
Frodebro
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Deeply RTFM, twist all the knobs and press all the buttons before buying encyclopedias. In case of emergency, ask at the forums
Some people are good with reading manuals, some people are more comfortable with having a person show them. We’re all wired differently. That can be from YouTube, or it can be Cooper’s series. Whatever makes a fellow happy.
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I definitely don’t need a manual for the one I already own.
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There's people in need of easy explanations for everything. The joy of discovery and experimentation is gone on the YouTube generation
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I posted this in the wrong thread.
For whoever's interested, here's the current curriculum for the Axe-FX III Masterclass:
Introduction & Philosophy
The Axe-Fx III in 2023 - Welcome to v3.0
Introduction & Philosophy
Setup & Global Settings
Initial Setup & Gear Considerations
The Input Screen
Audio & USB/AES Settings
FC Controller Settings
Global Settings
The Pedal Page
MIDI/Remote Settings
Utilities
The Tuner
Basics of the Grid & Dialing in a Clean Tone
Routing Best Practices & Templates
The IR Capture Screen
Dialing in a Clean Tone
Adding in Reverb
Dialing in Compression
The Basics of Delay
Dialing in Chorus & Further Refinements
The Perform Tabs
Dialing in an Edge of Breakup Tone
Dialing in an Edge of Breakup Tone Pt. I
Dialing in an Edge of Breakup Tone Pt...
Organic Reverb Techniques
Exploring Compression
Exploring Edge of Breakup Drive
Creating an Ambient Space
Tremolo
The Rotary Speaker
The Perform Tab
Dialing in a Classic Rock Tone
Introduction to Dialing in a Classic ...
Dialing in a Classic Rock Tone
Exploring Drives & Reverbs
Delays
Exploring Thickening Effects
The Perform Tab
Dialing in a High Gain Tone
Dialing in a High Gain Tone
The Noise Gate
Dialing in Delay & Reverb
Making It Sound Huge
Exploring the Enhancer
Flangers
Exploring the Plex Delay
Dialing in a Wah Pedal
The Perform Tab
Introduction to Scenes & Channels
Introduction to Scenes and Channels
The Block Library & Global Blocks
Consolidating Four Presets into One R...
Special Considerations with Scenes & ...
Exploring Wah Channels
Best Practices for Presets with Scenes
Thoughts on Consolidating Presets
Building a Live Preset with Scenes
Dialing in a Live Tone
Refining a Live Tone
Exploring the Compressor
Sculpting a Lead
Adding More Effects
Exploring the Rotary
Even More Effects
Building Gig Scenes
The Virtual Capo & Pitch Block
High & Low Cutting the Cabinet Block ...
Live Performance Controls
Recreating the "Amp in the Room" Sound
Introduction to Recreating the "Amp i...
Recreating the Amp in the Room Sound ...
Exploring Amp Parameters
Exploring Advanced Amp Parameters
Exploring Supply Sag
Exploring the Variac
Using Multiple Amps
Introduction to Using Multiple Amps
Setting Up Eight Amps in One Preset
Live Mixing Between Amps
Creating a "Sound on Sound"
Creating a Sound on Sound Pt. I - Dia...
Creating a Sound on Sound Pt. II - Im...
Using Multiple Inputs for Multiple Instruments
Introduction to Multiple Inputs & Run...
Running an Acoustic & an Electric Gui...
Running Two Guitarists into the Axe-F...
Running a Guitar & a Bass into the Ax...
Running a Full Band on One Axe-Fx III
Building Different Physical Rigs
Introduction to Multiple Outputs & Ut...
Using the Axe-Fx III with a Solid Sta...
Using the Axe-Fx III with a Tube Powe...
Using the Axe-Fx III with an "FRFR" Sys...
Using the Axe-Fx III with an "FRFR" Sys...
Using the Axe-Fx III as an Effects-Only Unit
Using the Axe-Fx III as the Ultimate ...
Using the Axe-Fx III as an FX Loop On...
Using the Axe-Fx III in Front of an Amp
External Control with Pedals
Introduction to External Control with...
Creating a Whammy Pedal
Creating a 'Talkbox' Formant Pedal
Controlling Amp Gain with a Pedal
Controlling Delays with a Pedal
Using the FC Foot Controllers
Introduction to the FC Controllers
FC Layouts 1-5 - The Presets, Scenes,...
FC Layout 6 - The Per-Preset Layout
FC Layouts 7 & 8 - The Perform Layouts
Customizing Multiple Live Layouts - A...
Stand-In Switches, Pedals & Further R...
The JP IIC+ Preset
FC-6 vs. FC-12 Considerations
Using Multiple FC Pedals Pt. I
Using Multiple FC Controllers Pt. II
The Internal Controllers Suite
Exploring Low Frequency Oscillators (...
Exploring Low Frequency Oscillators (...
Exploring the Envelope Follower Pt. I
Exploring the Envelope Follower Pt. II
Exploring the ADSR
The 'Auto Koto' - Advanced Controller...
Exploring the Sequencer
Exploring the Pitch Follower
Creating a Dynamic Lead with the Pitc...
Creating a Synth Lead with the Pitch ...
Exploring Scene Controllers
Automating Tone with Scene Controllers
Applying Scene Controllers to the Sou...
Exploring Control Switches Pt. I
Exploring Control Switches Pt. II
Tone Matching
Introduction to Tone Matching
Tone Matching a Recorded Electric Tone
Tone Matching High Gain Tones
Tone Matching an Acoustic Guitar
Turning an Electric Guitar into an Ac...
Reamping
Introduction to Reamping
Setting Up for Reamping
Reamping with the Axe-Fx
Live Reamping via USB
Controlling the Axe-Fx with a DAW
Setting Up to Control the Axe-Fx with...
Creating a Preset to Control with a DAW
Automating Scene Changes with a DAW
Automating a Wah (Or Anything Else!) ...
Creating Live Harmony Lines with the ...
Managing Presets & Cabs, Wrapping Up & Further Exploration
Managing Presets
Managing Cabs
Wrapping Up & Further Exploration
One Final Experiment - Wandering Thro...
For whoever's interested, here's the current curriculum for the Axe-FX III Masterclass:
Introduction & Philosophy
The Axe-Fx III in 2023 - Welcome to v3.0
Introduction & Philosophy
Setup & Global Settings
Initial Setup & Gear Considerations
The Input Screen
Audio & USB/AES Settings
FC Controller Settings
Global Settings
The Pedal Page
MIDI/Remote Settings
Utilities
The Tuner
Basics of the Grid & Dialing in a Clean Tone
Routing Best Practices & Templates
The IR Capture Screen
Dialing in a Clean Tone
Adding in Reverb
Dialing in Compression
The Basics of Delay
Dialing in Chorus & Further Refinements
The Perform Tabs
Dialing in an Edge of Breakup Tone
Dialing in an Edge of Breakup Tone Pt. I
Dialing in an Edge of Breakup Tone Pt...
Organic Reverb Techniques
Exploring Compression
Exploring Edge of Breakup Drive
Creating an Ambient Space
Tremolo
The Rotary Speaker
The Perform Tab
Dialing in a Classic Rock Tone
Introduction to Dialing in a Classic ...
Dialing in a Classic Rock Tone
Exploring Drives & Reverbs
Delays
Exploring Thickening Effects
The Perform Tab
Dialing in a High Gain Tone
Dialing in a High Gain Tone
The Noise Gate
Dialing in Delay & Reverb
Making It Sound Huge
Exploring the Enhancer
Flangers
Exploring the Plex Delay
Dialing in a Wah Pedal
The Perform Tab
Introduction to Scenes & Channels
Introduction to Scenes and Channels
The Block Library & Global Blocks
Consolidating Four Presets into One R...
Special Considerations with Scenes & ...
Exploring Wah Channels
Best Practices for Presets with Scenes
Thoughts on Consolidating Presets
Building a Live Preset with Scenes
Dialing in a Live Tone
Refining a Live Tone
Exploring the Compressor
Sculpting a Lead
Adding More Effects
Exploring the Rotary
Even More Effects
Building Gig Scenes
The Virtual Capo & Pitch Block
High & Low Cutting the Cabinet Block ...
Live Performance Controls
Recreating the "Amp in the Room" Sound
Introduction to Recreating the "Amp i...
Recreating the Amp in the Room Sound ...
Exploring Amp Parameters
Exploring Advanced Amp Parameters
Exploring Supply Sag
Exploring the Variac
Using Multiple Amps
Introduction to Using Multiple Amps
Setting Up Eight Amps in One Preset
Live Mixing Between Amps
Creating a "Sound on Sound"
Creating a Sound on Sound Pt. I - Dia...
Creating a Sound on Sound Pt. II - Im...
Using Multiple Inputs for Multiple Instruments
Introduction to Multiple Inputs & Run...
Running an Acoustic & an Electric Gui...
Running Two Guitarists into the Axe-F...
Running a Guitar & a Bass into the Ax...
Running a Full Band on One Axe-Fx III
Building Different Physical Rigs
Introduction to Multiple Outputs & Ut...
Using the Axe-Fx III with a Solid Sta...
Using the Axe-Fx III with a Tube Powe...
Using the Axe-Fx III with an "FRFR" Sys...
Using the Axe-Fx III with an "FRFR" Sys...
Using the Axe-Fx III as an Effects-Only Unit
Using the Axe-Fx III as the Ultimate ...
Using the Axe-Fx III as an FX Loop On...
Using the Axe-Fx III in Front of an Amp
External Control with Pedals
Introduction to External Control with...
Creating a Whammy Pedal
Creating a 'Talkbox' Formant Pedal
Controlling Amp Gain with a Pedal
Controlling Delays with a Pedal
Using the FC Foot Controllers
Introduction to the FC Controllers
FC Layouts 1-5 - The Presets, Scenes,...
FC Layout 6 - The Per-Preset Layout
FC Layouts 7 & 8 - The Perform Layouts
Customizing Multiple Live Layouts - A...
Stand-In Switches, Pedals & Further R...
The JP IIC+ Preset
FC-6 vs. FC-12 Considerations
Using Multiple FC Pedals Pt. I
Using Multiple FC Controllers Pt. II
The Internal Controllers Suite
Exploring Low Frequency Oscillators (...
Exploring Low Frequency Oscillators (...
Exploring the Envelope Follower Pt. I
Exploring the Envelope Follower Pt. II
Exploring the ADSR
The 'Auto Koto' - Advanced Controller...
Exploring the Sequencer
Exploring the Pitch Follower
Creating a Dynamic Lead with the Pitc...
Creating a Synth Lead with the Pitch ...
Exploring Scene Controllers
Automating Tone with Scene Controllers
Applying Scene Controllers to the Sou...
Exploring Control Switches Pt. I
Exploring Control Switches Pt. II
Tone Matching
Introduction to Tone Matching
Tone Matching a Recorded Electric Tone
Tone Matching High Gain Tones
Tone Matching an Acoustic Guitar
Turning an Electric Guitar into an Ac...
Reamping
Introduction to Reamping
Setting Up for Reamping
Reamping with the Axe-Fx
Live Reamping via USB
Controlling the Axe-Fx with a DAW
Setting Up to Control the Axe-Fx with...
Creating a Preset to Control with a DAW
Automating Scene Changes with a DAW
Automating a Wah (Or Anything Else!) ...
Creating Live Harmony Lines with the ...
Managing Presets & Cabs, Wrapping Up & Further Exploration
Managing Presets
Managing Cabs
Wrapping Up & Further Exploration
One Final Experiment - Wandering Thro...
laxu
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That's a lot of stuff. I think once you know the basics, the value of the course might be in finding what you could do with the advanced options.
A lot of the controller stuff is something few people use because they have a hard time figuring out what to do with it. Even if they understand how to use it, finding good usecases can be difficult.
A lot of the controller stuff is something few people use because they have a hard time figuring out what to do with it. Even if they understand how to use it, finding good usecases can be difficult.
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Thats all good, but nowhere in his Basics curriculum is “Day 1: Dial up the SLO clean, Deluxe Memory Man, and Blackhole reverb. Now use it exclusively for the first three months of ownership”. That will be in my memoir, I guess.
It’s kind of badass to have that thorough of an instructional on a platform. Dude put in the work.
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TubeStack
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I'd say no, and I got the FM3 one, back during Covid when I was needing something to do in the house and totally new to Fractal.
Stratzrus
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I have an Axe FX III and a FM9. If I took one of the classes would it cover the other?
I assume the FM9 class has info on programming the footswitch that isn't in the III class. Does the III class cover programming the FC-12? Are there things omitted in the FM9 class that pertain to the III?
I can't see taking both. If I had to take one or the other which would be the better choice since I have both units?
I assume the FM9 class has info on programming the footswitch that isn't in the III class. Does the III class cover programming the FC-12? Are there things omitted in the FM9 class that pertain to the III?
I can't see taking both. If I had to take one or the other which would be the better choice since I have both units?
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