Why is spring reverb so hard to model?

[luckymethod]

Eh, that's more of a workaround that what I'm referring to.

just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing. In the editor you can for example save the configuration of a specific channel of a block (let's say delay).

you can then take that configuration and drop it into any other preset. Are you referring to saving a configuration for multiple blocks at once including connections?

 

[la szum]

The same holds true with acoustic reberb. It's because human hearing is nonlinear.

So it's kind of all in our head, so to speak?

 

[la szum]

To give credit where it’s due, @jay mitchell knows more about the audio-specific side of topics like this than I ever will. As much as I enjoy getting into occasional debates with him, he very surely knows his stuff.

Don't sell yourself short there, SM.

 

[paisleywookiee]

just want to be sure we're talking about the same thing. In the editor you can for example save the configuration of a specific channel of a block (let's say delay).

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you can then take that configuration and drop it into any other preset. Are you referring to saving a configuration for multiple blocks at once including connections?

I’m talking about exporting a singular block, be it one channel or all, so that later without having to import that preset and then copy the block to another preset, you can just import a block.

 

[Stone]

Tone Master Drip reverb

 

[Trollbait]

The reverb in my Ensoniq DP4 sounds just as good if not better than the my tube works stereo spring reverb. The key is mixing the wet DP4 with the dry guitar in a mixer.

So stereo guitar coming into the mixer from Preamp (ADAMp2) > then using mixer sends for those 2 channels sending dry guitar to the DP4 reverb> then returned to it own stereo channel in the mixer.>out to power amp

That's mixed with the stereo dry Channel and >out to power amp.

into Stereo full range speakers.

 

[metropolis_4]

So many Daves

 

[laxu]

I’m talking about exporting a singular block, be it one channel or all, so that later without having to import that preset and then copy the block to another preset, you can just import a block.

Isn't that exactly how the library feature works? Add block X to empty preset, load its settings from the saved library.

 

[luckymethod]

I’m talking about exporting a singular block, be it one channel or all, so that later without having to import that preset and then copy the block to another preset, you can just import a block.

that's done with the UI I showed you then.

 

[DrewJD82]

I’m talking about exporting a singular block, be it one channel or all, so that later without having to import that preset and then copy the block to another preset, you can just import a block.

Click an Effects block, then right click the Block Library and prepare to be amazed, sir!

 

[paisleywookiee]

that's done with the UI I showed you then.

No, it isn't. There is no "export block" that I can send to a friend, back up to my computer, etc. It's all got to be done with presets.

 

[jellodog]

No, it isn't. There is no "export block" that I can send to a friend, back up to my computer, etc. It's all got to be done with presets.

Have you seen Leon Todd's Block Library?

Blocks Library UPDATED FOR 2023

Here's my updated and revised blocks library for FW23b. Edit - UPDATED FOR OCTOBER 2023. BLOCKS - https://tinyurl.com/2ct6t67f

forum.fractalaudio.com

Blocks can be saved and retrieved from a physical location on disk. Try one of Leon's. You don't have to load everything - you can choose to just try a single block.

Gotta love that guy!

 

[paisleywookiee]

Have you seen Leon Todd's Block Library?

Blocks Library UPDATED FOR 2023

Here's my updated and revised blocks library for FW23b. Edit - UPDATED FOR OCTOBER 2023. BLOCKS - https://tinyurl.com/2ct6t67f

forum.fractalaudio.com

Blocks can be saved and retrieved from a physical location on disk. Try one of Leon's. You don't have to load everything - you can choose to just try a single block.

Gotta love that guy!

Yeah I just found that, in the Mac version.

 

[Stone]

Some Tone master Dev said something about TMP not needing any tone tips or online know how's
Basically targeting Leon while politically be correct and not mentioning him

 

[Mongillo19]

Some Tone master Dev said something about TMP not needing any tone tips or online know how's
Basically targeting Leon while politically be correct and not mentioning him

Eh I wouldn't read into it that much. Isn't that the whole thing of TMP, ease of use?

Im not sure but Fender may have sent Leon a unit to try? But I don't want to make stuff up lol

 

[fazer]

What is it about spring reverb? It seems like even the top tier devices out there really struggle to get it right.

The newer Helix one is good and TMP sounds great in videos… the rest…


I feel like there are a lot of players who think they don’t like spring reverb because all they’ve ever experienced is terrible digital spring reverb

The TMP spring reverb is great, especially the convolution versions but they do require a bit of extra processing power. They get the drip perfect though.

 

[marshall2553]

It looks like Cliff completely revamped the spring reverb in the latest beta firmware for the III. I can’t wait to try it this evening. Thank you @FractalAudio

 

[fretworn]

 

[luckymethod]

It looks like Cliff completely revamped the spring reverb in the latest beta firmware for the III. I can’t wait to try it this evening. Thank you @FractalAudio

Cliff is super predictable in this kind of things. If another product gets something half right or people criticize a specific aspect of the Axe hard enough he'll just disappear for a few weeks and dunk on them with some kind of quantum leap in realism. I just need to figure out how to piss him off enough about the synth block and granular / glitch delays and the axe is going to be PERFECT for me.

 

[JiveTurkey]

@FractalAudio