Hopefully....I'm going to eat some crow (Fender Tonemaster Pro content)

[[Nathan]]

This is all cliffs fault for being too damn productive, it makes all the competition look like snails

Fender seems to have set the cadence for themselves, at least it’s somewhat consistent compared to neuraldsp. Helix is long in the tooth and has a bazillion amps and effects so no one should be hanging out for updates, but Fender is still doing more than helix. Kemper… lol.

If you bought the TMP and were happy with it as it stood then you’ve got “more” now. I pretty much gravitate to the EVH stealth, rockverb, soldano and infrequently use the mesas and Friedman. I’d love to see more high gain stuff but it is what it is. Easy to dunk on not being happy with the latest run of amps but eh, maybe I’ll find some use out of the new pedals (comic sans drive already pretty sweet).

Guess it depends on what you want out of it. I’ve got real amps and plugins and I still just like flicking a modeller on and noodling away, the hands on is part of why I like it. If the EVH hypersonic cab turns out to be a keeper that alone would make a sweet rig just a tmp into the hypersonic.

 

[ChordInversion]

So you need 14 x more Fenders to get another 14 x versions of the same clean tone

Hah. There are some pretty great variations in their lower gain sounds. But it feels like these days, people think there's clean, and then there's modded Marshall or dual recto.

 

[ChordInversion]

This is all cliffs fault for being too damn productive, it makes all the competition look like snails

You're not wrong.

Fender seems to have set the cadence for themselves, at least it’s somewhat consistent compared to neuraldsp.

Yeah, I do acknowledge that they've been consistent.

If you bought the TMP and were happy with it as it stood then you’ve got “more” now.

That's my mistake. I got it thinking that it was missing stuff, but that it would fill out fairly soon. People who were happy from jump should stay that way or be even happier, naturally.

I pretty much gravitate to the EVH stealth, rockverb, soldano and infrequently use the mesas and Friedman. I’d love to see more high gain stuff but it is what it is. Easy to dunk on not being happy with the latest run of amps but eh, maybe I’ll find some use out of the new pedals (comic sans drive already pretty sweet).

See I wouldn't push back on folks wanting more high gain stuff. It's tough trying to be the device for everyone.

Guess it depends on what you want out of it.

It does. I saw the interface as being perfect for just replacing the "plug in, dial in, and play" experience, which for me meant being able to grab a guitar, pick an amp, dial in, and find a sound that strikes me. For me, more amps in the clean to low/mid gain range are part of that.

I’ve got real amps and plugins and I still just like flicking a modeller on and noodling away, the hands on is part of why I like it. If the EVH hypersonic cab turns out to be a keeper that alone would make a sweet rig just a tmp into the hypersonic.

I have the FR-10. It's very good.

 

[BenIfin]

Hah. There are some pretty great variations in their lower gain sounds. But it feels like these days, people think there's clean, and then there's modded Marshall or dual recto,

I actually %100 agree. Honestly, >%80 of my live playing is edge of breakup / mild-defined-crunch .... for this the UAD Dream through my HX Stomp Send/Return with a bit of " Prince Of Tone " [ ie: Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal ] boost does the trick beautifully ... if I need "almost clean" I just roll my guitar volume down to around 7.

 

[mikah912]

I see no issue with people wanting more and more, and Fender is attempting to give that to everyone.

But they're going to get roasted no matter what. If the last two updates were nothing but obscure older Fenders, Chord Inversion and some other dudes would be happy. Then, people like Nathan and myself would take it as proof that Fender can't do modern, non-Fender amps and probably give up on the platform.

They try to compromise with making Fender models at least 50 percent of the guitar amps added in each of the last several updates....still not enough for some. Make a huge update with 7 cabs, 4 guitar amps, 2 bass amps and 20+ new effects....they suck.

 

[timbuck3]

It seems that fender isn’t trying to catchup or even surpass fractal or helix but the have this gtx100/mustang mentality in modelers and seem to be following that route but with a better interface and it’s even though that whole SIC Thing isn’t really fixed which seems weird