Why is spring reverb so hard to model?

[Mongillo19]

Link please

 

[JiveTurkey]

Link please

I thought you'd never ask!

 

[jellodog]

@SwirlyMaple I just realised that it was you that got me into The Mermen at TheOtherPlace™ in a Jazzmaster thread on Jan 31, 2022. What a special day that was

 

[SwirlyMaple]

Krill Slippin' !!!

Would you believe that I met Jim Thomas after a Mermen show earlier this year, and he chatted with me for a solid 10 minutes about what he used to record that album? And then he said, "Hey, have you ever heard the demo tracks for it? I recorded them with a cheap drum machine on tape and they sound f*cking amazing!" I said no, but I'd love to, and sure as shit, I emailed him and he sent them all to me.

Dude is super friendly, and I am now even more of a fan than I already was. Also, can confirm, those demo tracks do indeed sound f*cking amazing.

 

[Mongillo19]

I thought you'd never ask!

JT just has this permanently saved to his clipboard

 

[jellodog]

Would you believe that I met Jim Thomas after a Mermen show earlier this year, and he chatted with me for a solid 10 minutes about what he used to record that album? And then he said, "Hey, have you ever heard the demo tracks for it? I recorded them with a cheap drum machine on tape and they sound f*cking amazing!" I said no, but I'd love to, and sure as shit, I emailed him and he sent them all to me.

Dude is super friendly, and I am now even more of a fan than I already was. Also, can confirm, those demo tracks do indeed sound f*cking amazing.

I super love Jim's surfy tone from that era and that album.

But I also really enjoy his more recent HPTT tones too. It's great how his sound has evolved and changed over the years. I didn't used to appreciate or understand the Tweed sound, but his "Big Tweed" amp tone + 1176 + echo has really opened my ears to it. I have a "Mermen" patch on my FM9 that attempts to replicate that.

 

[SwirlyMaple]

I thought you'd never ask!

I'm still not sure if the TMP fuzz falls short of his pedal, or if he just didn't twist the knobs the right direction. The pedal had its tone knob dialed back a bit, and had more bass than the TMP's model. Then we he adjusted knobs on the TMP, he turned its tone up even higher, making it more trebly. I'm thinking WTF are you doing man?

At any rate, a fuzz straight into the front of the TMP sounds fantastic. I was a bit worried about this since Andertons Tone Master amp demo sounded weird with a fuzz right into the amp's input, but they got the input sorted nicely for the TMP.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I think all dudes tones in that video sound righteous \m/

 

[SwirlyMaple]

I super love Jim's surfy tone from that era and that album.

But I also really enjoy his more recent HPTT tones too. It's great how his sound has evolved and changed over the years. I didn't used to appreciate the tweed sound, but his "Big tweed" sound + 1176 + echo has really opened my ears to it. I have a "Mermen" patch on my FM9 that attempts to replicate that.

Yeah, he's really something special with his tones across all the years of their evolution. His current live rig sounds incredible. His pedal board is surprisingly huge, and he has a couple of custom tweed amps behind him that sizzle, spit, shimmer, and sound utterly glorious. I'm not sure I've ever heard a better clean tone than his live.

 

[jellodog]

Yeah, he's really something special with his tones across all the years of their evolution. His current live rig sounds incredible. His pedal board is surprisingly huge, and he has a couple of custom tweed amps behind him that sizzle, spit, shimmer, and sound utterly glorious. I'm not sure I've ever heard a better clean tone than his live.

I remember hearing an interview where he was saying that he was embarrassed to admit that he'd custom ordered a Schmidt Array!

I honestly think he was the originator of the spaceship pedalboard. He has a bank of expression pedals too, IIRC. Amazing.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I remember hearing an interview where he was saying that he was embarrassed to admit that he'd custom ordered a Schmidt Array!

I honestly think he was the originator of the spaceship pedalboard. He has a bank of expression pedals too, IIRC. Amazing.

Laughs in Vernon Reid

 

[SwirlyMaple]

I remember hearing an interview where he was saying that he was embarrassed to admit that he'd custom ordered a Schmidt Array!

I honestly think he was the originator of the spaceship pedalboard. He has a bank of expression pedals too, IIRC. Amazing.

This was his pedal rig for the show where I met him, which was a tiny little bar + crepe restaurant with hardly any stage room. This isn't all of it, though. There was even more stuff on top of the amps behind him.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

So Jay is saying that those little plastic isolater thingies that a spring reverb tank is mounted upon are of sufficient strength
and absorptive substance that no sympathetic vibrations are transmitted from the cabinet through them to the spring reverb tank??

Am I translating/interpreting this correctly??

No, those aren't the isolation he's referring to.

 

[jellodog]

@SwirlyMaple Nice to see the Cali76 is still in there

Oh, and he's added a Cloudburst. Sweet!

 

[timbuck3]

This was his pedal rig for the show where I met him, which was a tiny little bar + crepe restaurant with hardly any stage room. This isn't all of it, though. There was even more stuff on top of the amps behind him.

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omg...how chaotic..on a dRK stage

 

[dk_ace]

I think all dudes tones in that video sound righteous \m/

Yeah I’ve been hating on the TMP, I ate my words a little watching that video. Surf isn’t my thing, but everything in that video was money.

D

 

[la szum]

It's always the unassuming Dad looking dude who gets ya in the end.

 

[yeky83]

Eh, the video doesn't do anything for me, sorry @JiveTurkey

 

[Whizzinby]

JT just has this permanently saved to his clipboard

 

[Foxmeister]

Intelligence is knowing all the right things. Wisdom is knowing when to say them.