New Fractal speculation thread

[Eagle]

Axe 4 but I’m not sure how much different it could be. The interface is as simple as it could be considering what it needs to do and it has all the connections already. I still want an FR FR that sounds like a good amp.

 

[laxu]

+1 for Amp+Cab+IR box.

It will be tough for Fractal to decide what blocks should be included/excluded.
Gate, Drive and Parametric EQ are core tone shaping tools and are essential imo, the rest is 'effects' in my book.

For an amp/cab box, they could limit it to the input boosts and input/output EQ built into the Amp block, plus noise gate.

 

[saarangnarayan]

For an amp/cab box, they could limit it to the input boosts and input/output EQ built into the Amp block, plus noise gate.

I hope if they go the input boost route, it is not a 1:1 of the Axe Fx or FM amp blocks because they can be a bit limiting when using the input boost for tone-shaping. Also there is a slight difference (to my ear at least) between using the drive block and the input boost with the same settings.

 

[the swede]

I will to! Everything to carry this thread to its glory!!! For every person that waits for the glorious product, we will fight and be brave for them!

 

[Someoldqueenorother]

Honestly. I really think they (not only fractal) should put a shoe in the ass of the “amp in a box” trend. The thing is, that is what many want, and UA went berserk on that… although in a very weird way (no midi, no headphones, hidden behind app features and so on). It wouldn’t be a bad idea to further put things in “segments”. Effects is one thing, amp and cabs is one thing, flagship everything in one… is one thing. Maybe even capture/profiling is its own thing (Kemper and Neural did so.

My point is. The end of pedalboard amp/cab in a box(pedal) is a very big thing. For many.

A fractal amp/cab pedal would def kick my Walrus ass. So would a L6 if done seriously (not a Pod Express).

Just my opinions… I think fractal should do it.

FM1!

Stereo amp and cab in a box please with a very simple ambience reverb. I want to go stereo out from the VP4 into this via SPDIF.

 

[FuzzyAce]

An amp and cab pedal "VA4" would be amazing.

"Why not get a full modeler then?!!!"
Because not everyone wants another all-in-the-box solution at this point. I'd rather have more focused pieces with dedicated processing power that are killer on their own but also play very well together.

(or FAS Native)

 

[aflynt]

To me a virtual amp device should have amp blocks and cab blocks obviously, but also reverb and tremolo blocks too. Those are integral parts of a ton of classic amps.

-Aaron

 

[FuzzyAce]

To me a virtual amp device should have amp blocks and cab blocks obviously, but also reverb and tremolo blocks too. Those are integral parts of a ton of classic amps.

-Aaron

Slippery Slope

 

[aflynt]

Slippery Slope

Yeah. I could see one arguing for a chorus block too for the JC, and sure lots of people just use those effects from pedals / rack units instead. But it seems logical to me that a "Virtual Pedalboard" (VP4) would have a "Virtual Amp" companion, and if this is to make sense, then the virtual amp should have all the things that amps have.

-Aaron

 

[DLC86]

To me a virtual amp device should have amp blocks and cab blocks obviously, but also reverb and tremolo blocks too. Those are integral parts of a ton of classic amps.

-Aaron

Fractal amp block (except the one in the FM3) already has a bias tremolo. Reverb would be nice but considering how heavy are fractal amps and reverbs on the cpu it won't be that easy in a compact pedal.

 

[aflynt]

Fractal amp block (except the one in the FM3) already has a bias tremolo. Reverb would be nice but considering how heavy are fractal amps and reverbs on the cpu it won't be that easy in a compact pedal.

Maybe I guess. Do we really know that the chips used in the VP4 can't do all this stuff though, or even if they're going to use that same chip, or that there isn't something in the instruction set that facilitates this in some way more easily than that of the FM(X)? I mean, I can see a lot of people being fine w/o Reverb or Tremolo blocks, but if this is for the "Caveman" crowd, I could see a lot of them wondering where the reverb knob is on their Twin.

-Aaron

 

[Jarick]

I could see depending on how the VP4 sells, a bigger and a smaller option. If the HX One is successful, there's probably a market for a VP1, and similarly a full VP8 or something would be cool too.

 

[the swede]

No. We absolutely do need more Iridium killers. And UA needs to be kicked in the fucking ass. Far up in it also.

 

[holoholo]

All this amp and cab pedal talk. Inject it in my veins. I really hope it’s the next fractal product.

 

[nicolasrivera]

What about a pedal smaller than the VP4 but only with Amps and Cabs?

 

[the swede]

What about a pedal smaller than the VP4 but only with Amps and Cabs?

Now that! That’s game on!
That would be the dream desktop amp for my pedalboard

 

[Someoldqueenorother]

That would do very nicely.

Guitar input --> VAC2 amp --> SPDIF stereo output to VP4 --> stereo effects --> SPDIF out back to the VAC2 --> cab sims.

The ability to place that SPDIF output pre- or post- cab would be perfect.

 

[quadgear]

Do

What about a pedal smaller than the VP4 but only with Amps and Cabs?

So basically the combination of the two is as big or bigger than the FM3 and maybe the FM9?

Doesn't cut it for me.

 

[nicolasrivera]

Do


So basically the combination of the two is as big or bigger than the FM3 and maybe the FM9?

Doesn't cut it for me.

Well, many many people have asked over the years for a Amp Cab only pedal from Fractal. Maybe some Day that dream will come true!

 

[[Nathan]]

Do


So basically the combination of the two is as big or bigger than the FM3 and maybe the FM9?

Doesn't cut it for me.

If you were only buying these to use in conjunction with each other then the FM3 would probably be the more succinct / cheaper route. Also having seen the FM3 next to the vp4, I dont think this combo would be much bigger, a tad wider but shorter in height. You would presumably buy these in a combo because

- You can buy them separately at different times
- They are more modular with existing amps/pedals
- Prefer the pedalboard format over a fm3/fm9 tank

There's pros/cons to all the setups but you can't just ignore the fact that people would be stoked on having these broken out like this. I'd either grab the VAC2 in a heartbeat to use on desktop or finally pony up for an axe3, no excuses at that point