Dom Mcsweeney
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Hahaha, if that was me it would probably sound very different, and definitely more human...
I think that's an Australian style A.I. voice?
I think that's an Australian style A.I. voice?
NAM pedal coming soon
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Mongillo19
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Eh people use the HX stomp with no issue. Hard to say for certain until you actually use it I think.
Sascha Franck
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It looks as if it'd be no wider than the Stomp. But there's 4 switches instead of 3.
Mongillo19
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Honestly not sure. Looks slightly bigger to me than the stomp.
Again, I think we need to hold off until we learn more about the measurements of the unit before claiming it to be too cramped or small. We truly have no idea.
Dom Mcsweeney
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From one of the comments on their previous facebook posts:
7.4 inches x 4.72 inches x 2.16 inches (188 mm x 120 mm x 56 mm) ... *including knobs.
Also, midi input means a midi controller/switcher can be used if a better arrangement is required.
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Sascha Franck
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That's around 2cm more than the Stomp. As said, these Footswitches are extremely close to each other.
Why not start with a decent size?
But then, well, as usual, ergonomic aspects are largely ignored anyway (similar with that St. Rock Amperium thing) Non-endless pots on digital units are making zero sense, either. Already told them on FB, they don't care.
And well, actually, that's a pity.
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what is a decent size in your opinion?
and what are the pros and cons of 'non-endless' pots?
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Cant please everyone, unfortunately. At the end of the day the maker of the unit has final say no matter how much you bring it up.
You need to decide if it's a deal breaker for you personally.
I'm sure they "care" but if they made it bigger some would be messaging them "why did you make the unit so big???".
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One that averagely sized feet can comfortably stomp on without much chances to hit the wrong switch or two switches at the same time.
There's zero pros.
The cons are that the pots never represent the actual parameter value when you switch patches. And once you move them, there's either parameter jumps or parameter "catch ups", neither of them being desirable.
The solution is endless knobs with parameter readouts (ideally as nicely visible LED rings but on-screen such as on the Stomp is ok, too).
Sure. And at the end of the day, he will sell very little units. Such as St. Rock.
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I'll put out the memo that companies need to clear ideas and product specs by you before launch.
I've seen you do this before with any product that doesn't meet your "requirements". It's hilarious too because of all the reasons for this product to fail, I highly doubt the size is going to be the reason.
But you tend to choose weird hills to die on with products and expect companies to bend over backwards or treat your "suggestions" as gospel.
Anyway. Hope Dimehead succeeds and it seems to be a decent entry into the NAM player world. We will have to wait and see what happens.
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Sascha Franck
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Great. I'm all in.
Which products exactly? And has the St. Rock thing been a great success?
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To be fair, most people opt for a midi switcher when needing more precise control and running pedal boards. They aren't too much extra, but they sure do save you time in conversations like this!
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No. I do, but many people don't (in fact, my current board has a loop switcher but no MIDI - for my board proper onboard switches are still very important). Look into the "show your pedalboard" threads here and elsewhere (for example on Gearspace).
Besides, in that case, the switches go wasted, the space they need, too.
I'm a very experienced live player. So I'm pointing out things relevant for live playing. People making these pedals could take live players' advices (I mean, it's not as if I was the only one noticing several things) to improve their products.
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Just give me a tiny box with midi in please! I don’t need a bunch of switches. It’ll be run with my helix
Who ever did that has BBC documentary voice over qualities !Is that you with the voiceover?
I fear they have a big challenge to make this a succes.
At this pricepoint they may offer the best digital amp capture (to some)…but the competition has good enough” / ”don’t hear no difference” versions (to many)…in matured eco systems with efx/utilities/bladibladibla..
And…I expect the big boys to be very aware of the potential of nam to become the industry standard across brands…and i wouldnt be surprised they have code on the shelf already…ready to integrate that into their platform as soon as that boat sails. I’d give nam the best cards atm, cause integrating something open source…is much more appealing then integrating a competitors format.
Then we are looking at GT cores/l6stomps/ampero/kemper player with nam player capabilities ..at simular price.
In my mind one day (soon) there will be an industry standard for ampcaptures, like there is for cabs…and…digital amp captures will be a commodity like IR functionality is today. If this is true, the brands of which their only selling point is ”amps” in a box…will not have a long lifetime.
Hardware, efx, ecosystem/daw integration…id be betting on that tbh…
At this pricepoint they may offer the best digital amp capture (to some)…but the competition has good enough” / ”don’t hear no difference” versions (to many)…in matured eco systems with efx/utilities/bladibladibla..
And…I expect the big boys to be very aware of the potential of nam to become the industry standard across brands…and i wouldnt be surprised they have code on the shelf already…ready to integrate that into their platform as soon as that boat sails. I’d give nam the best cards atm, cause integrating something open source…is much more appealing then integrating a competitors format.
Then we are looking at GT cores/l6stomps/ampero/kemper player with nam player capabilities ..at simular price.
In my mind one day (soon) there will be an industry standard for ampcaptures, like there is for cabs…and…digital amp captures will be a commodity like IR functionality is today. If this is true, the brands of which their only selling point is ”amps” in a box…will not have a long lifetime.
Hardware, efx, ecosystem/daw integration…id be betting on that tbh…
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Yeah, I'd pretty much place a bet on that as well. Whether people really need it, they just want it, so they won't stop asking their favourite brand's developers to add it. Especially the biggest market, namely home dwellers (maybe playing out 1-2 times a year, if at all), traditionally is full of people who can't have enough amps - just look at the most common feature requests. It's amps, amps and amps. Then maybe a dirt pedal and then amps. IMO also one of the reasons the Boss units see so little love, there's just not enough amps for home noodling.
I'd actually love all companies to add capture support. Maybe they could free up some manpower to focus on other things.
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I think this is true for amp modeling in general. I'm sure many in the future will opt for something cheap because captures sound good enough and if you don't like what you get, instead of learning how to adjust an amp you just pick another capture.
Which is IMO an unfortunate direction, but most people are not amp experts and just want "sounds like <my favorite band>" type sounds.
As a counterpoint, companies like being in control. They don't want to have to support NAM 1.2.3 changing something so that new captures are no longer compatible with the hardware for some reason.
I do agree that a standard format would be good because it takes a lot of development effort away because you no longer have to grow your library as people make more captures, but can just tap into a vast existing one. The drawback is that you have to sell your device on something other than how it sounds because it will be the same as device X from competitor Y.
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I believe it's text to speech AI.
O really…if it is…then text to speech has come a long way..
