Fractal Talk

[DrewJD82]

So about that Gilmour tone rabbit hole you were kicking around…

Despite the new drives popping up, I've got a PastFX Patriarch on the way. Trying to track down the TD-Y now, they're sold out and Reverb doesn't have any, damnit!

 

[Blix]

As Mesa 2C+ is all the rage these days, here's a couple old riffs with the C++ model!

 

[JiveTurkey]

As Mesa 2C+ is all the rage these days, here's a couple old riffs with the C++ model!

Very nice What are you boosting it with and what cab are you using?

 

[Blix]

Very nice What are you boosting it with and what cab are you using?

No boost! And the cabs are from a Simeon plexi preset he posted a few weeks ago and I just rolled with them when changing amps , sounds great :)

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

IIRC he's said elsewhere that modellers can never get it 100% like the real fuzz interaction with loading on the guitar pickups because they all effectively have a buffer in front of them from the modeller input (?).

Still, it'll be interesting to see how nicer these fuzzes are anyway!

The input impedance circuit takes care of the input impedance of the fuzz and is all-analog so pickup load "same as in analog" because...well, it is the same. It is the OUTPUT impedance that can't be modeled because you are fully in digital land by the time that happens.

You'd also be in "not quite 100% there" if using the fuzz as something other than first in the chain.

 

[JiveTurkey]

No boost! And the cabs are from a Simeon plexi preset he posted a few weeks ago and I just rolled with them when changing amps , sounds great :)

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Nice! I'm gonna dig up that plexi preset sometime! Marks in FAS area always killer!

 

[norminal]

And the cabs are from a Simeon plexi preset he posted a few weeks ago and I just rolled with them when changing amps , sounds great :)

Gotta link to that preset? I’m coming up empty.

 

[GTR37]

As Mesa 2C+ is all the rage these days, here's a couple old riffs with the C++ model!

TNT intuition ??

 

[Hapless]

TNT intuition ??

It's too bad Ronni Le Tekro didn't get more recognition. Most of TNT's songs were poppy crap, but he is a good guitarist.

 

[Blix]

Gotta link to that preset? I’m coming up empty.

Seems like the thread he posted it in is gone, so I put it on Axechange https://axechange.fractalaudio.com/detail.php?preset=11331
I haven't touched the plexi model on channel A, 2C++ in channel D, also added some other effects, the original preset was just delay and reverb .

TNT intuition ??

Yep!

 

[Jarick]

Just installed the new beta firmware for Axe 3 where Cliff re-did the Big Muffs and they sound great! He added some Wicker switch which seems to open up the tone, and now I'm getting a way better Pumpkins style fuzz.

It's funny because I had a bunch of tabs open looking at fuzz pedals to possibly pick one up, and basically got new ones for free.

I'll have to keep my eye on when these cascade down because I'm kicking around an FM3 to run with the FR-12.

 

[Mongillo19]

Analog fuzz pedals for life

 

[Rock Chalk]

This guy has the ram's head sounding pretty good........

Axe-Fx III Firmware 27.03 Public Beta

So spill the beans! What diodes did you use? Do we have them or something close? Honestly I don't recall cuz a few years have passed and I tried to open up the pedal but there's no code printed on them... They surely are germanium, my memory tells me D9E (we have them in the axe) but I'm...

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[JiveTurkey]

This guy has the ram's head sounding pretty good........View attachment 34303

Axe-Fx III Firmware 27.03 Public Beta

So spill the beans! What diodes did you use? Do we have them or something close? Honestly I don't recall cuz a few years have passed and I tried to open up the pedal but there's no code printed on them... They surely are germanium, my memory tells me D9E (we have them in the axe) but I'm...

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This preset is awesome. It wasn't near as fuzzy until I added in the Octavia to my ears. Killer sounding either way \m/

 

[norminal]

Seems like the thread he posted it in is gone, so I put it on Axechange https://axechange.fractalaudio.com/detail.php?preset=11331
I haven't touched the plexi model on channel A, 2C++ in channel D, also added some other effects, the original preset was just delay and reverb .

Thank you!

 

[JiveTurkey]

Thank you!

Thanks @Blix and @norminal for the request. I went searching last night and didn't find it. Looking forward to loading it up \m/

 

[dk_ace]

This guy has the ram's head sounding pretty good........View attachment 34303

Axe-Fx III Firmware 27.03 Public Beta

So spill the beans! What diodes did you use? Do we have them or something close? Honestly I don't recall cuz a few years have passed and I tried to open up the pedal but there's no code printed on them... They surely are germanium, my memory tells me D9E (we have them in the axe) but I'm...

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Dang that sounds great

D

 

[Jarick]

Did a quick comparison last night between a few Deluxes.

Downloaded the demo of the UAD Dream 65, and that is really underwhelming. It's generally pretty lean and bright. Can't really dial in a thick tone. Not bad but lacking depth.

Then fired up NDSP Tone King and was really enjoying that. By default it has a massive low end thump which makes it feel pretty fun. Messed around boosting the treble and cutting the bass, it sounds really good. Kind of forget how good those plugins can be sometimes.

Lastly plugged into the Axe 3 and dialed in a Deluxe into a York Audio IR. Wanted to get that same big low end of Tone King, so dug through the pages and sure enough there's a "speaker thump" control. Turned that up from 1 to about 3 and there's the big bass.

 

[metropolis_4]

Did a quick comparison last night between a few Deluxes.

Downloaded the demo of the UAD Dream 65, and that is really underwhelming. It's generally pretty lean and bright. Can't really dial in a thick tone. Not bad but lacking depth.

Then fired up NDSP Tone King and was really enjoying that. By default it has a massive low end thump which makes it feel pretty fun. Messed around boosting the treble and cutting the bass, it sounds really good. Kind of forget how good those plugins can be sometimes.

Lastly plugged into the Axe 3 and dialed in a Deluxe into a York Audio IR. Wanted to get that same big low end of Tone King, so dug through the pages and sure enough there's a "speaker thump" control. Turned that up from 1 to about 3 and there's the big bass.

I was surprised to learn that the Imperial was based on a Deluxe because new ones I’ve played don’t sound anything like a Deluxe.

I wonder how much the circuit/construction has changed since BAD took over. I’d be curious to try an original one to compare.

Do you know what version the NDSP plugin is based on?

 

[GTR37]

Did a quick comparison last night between a few Deluxes.

Downloaded the demo of the UAD Dream 65, and that is really underwhelming. It's generally pretty lean and bright. Can't really dial in a thick tone. Not bad but lacking depth.

Then fired up NDSP Tone King and was really enjoying that. By default it has a massive low end thump which makes it feel pretty fun. Messed around boosting the treble and cutting the bass, it sounds really good. Kind of forget how good those plugins can be sometimes.

Lastly plugged into the Axe 3 and dialed in a Deluxe into a York Audio IR. Wanted to get that same big low end of Tone King, so dug through the pages and sure enough there's a "speaker thump" control. Turned that up from 1 to about 3 and there's the big bass.

I haven’t tried that one yet but I am actually enjoying the NDSP plug in stuff
I will check out the Toneking and Morgan suite likely next
Basically I decided to unplug the FM9 give NDSP a go for a month and see , then go back to the Fractal w fresh ears