Fractal Talk

[iaresee]

No led's, no screen, no bluetooth, no PC editor, no input, no output - just buttons.

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Lose the labels and it’s perfect.

 

[timbuck3]

Too much still.
A simple power switch, volume knob and ‘dice’ button. Random settings applied each ‘roll of the dice’.

Still has vhs looking button array

 

[Elf]

No led's, no screen, no bluetooth, no PC editor, no input, no output - just buttons.

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For as brilliant as Cliff is I’m surprised he hasn’t come up with this solution himself!

 

[Piing]

I'm about to nuke everything and start from scratch, basing everything around the only preset that I am using lately (Wrecker Liverpool + 1x12 Carol-Ann). And forget about that massive collection of presets and IRs that I have hoarded that costs much more than value of the Axe-FX III.

 

[DrewJD82]

I'm about to nuke everything and start from scratch, basing everything around the only preset that I am using lately (Wrecker Liverpool + 1x12 Carol-Ann). And forget about that massive collection of presets and IRs that I have hoarded that costs much more than value of the Axe-FX III.

Actually, just last night I scrolled past all my User IR's and thought "I can delete every single one of these and not think twice about it"

I haven't touched a regular IR since DynaCabs came out and can't see myself ever saying "Man, I'd really like to sort through 50k+ IR's to find the right one instead of just moving this virtual mic 3 virtual inches"

Presets I have organized too well to consider that.

 

[Piing]

Who would need to mess with other things when you can play with that at any volume that you want? (It doesn't have master volume, so the real one has to be played loud to get the juice out of it)

 

[TSJMajesty]

I use one main tone, so I allow myself a small amount of time to tweak the few presets I use, (if that day it sounds like I want to improve it), save it to a new slot, then get to playing. Most days that's all I need. Some days it takes a little longer (not sure why; I have my main sound pretty much where I want it), but even that's getting to be rare.

I honestly don't get the infatuation with endless tweaking and gear churn. I mean, isn't the goal at the end of the day to be playing, whether it's for self-improvement in my case, or writing/recording (in which case I certainly understand the desire to find new tones, but it should still be a means to an end), or playing in a band? I dunno...

Ducks for cover...

 

[Achilles]

No led's, no screen, no bluetooth, no PC editor, no input, no output - just buttons.

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Blank out the logo and show this picture to 100 people who are 100% not part of the muso community
and ask them to describe what it is

At first glance it looks like a high end wall safe access door to me.

 

[Piing]

I use one main tone, so I allow myself a small amount of time to tweak the few presets I use, (if that day it sounds like I want to improve it), save it to a new slot, then get to playing. Most days that's all I need. Some days it takes a little longer (not sure why; I have my main sound pretty much where I want it), but even that's getting to be rare.

I honestly don't get the infatuation with endless tweaking and gear churn. I mean, isn't the goal at the end of the day to be playing, whether it's for self-improvement in my case, or writing/recording (in which case I certainly understand the desire to find new tones, but it should still be a means to an end), or playing in a band? I dunno...

Ducks for cover...

That is exactly what I've found now. A tone that I can enjoy playing over anything, from Gilmour to Blackmore, Satriani or AC/DC covers. So I do not have the need to search much for a match anymore. Just adapt the gain, EQ and FX. Goodbye to rabbit hole.

 

[TSJMajesty]

That is exactly what I've found now. A tone that I can enjoy playing over anything, from Gilmour to Blackmore, Satriani or AC/DC covers. So I do not have the need to search much for a match anymore. Just adapt the gain, EQ and FX. Goodbye to rabbit hole.

Yep. It's like the guys that get through a whole show riding their volume and stepping on a few pedals. That's all I need.
Oh and this other guitar, and that's all I need.
And this chair...

 

[deadpool_25]

I honestly don't get the infatuation with (X). I mean, isn't the goal at the end of the day to be (Y)?

Thinking like this indicates a massive flaw in human thinking these days--a lack of ability to see/accept/respect that other people can have vastly different experiences, perspectives, opinions, and motivations that can be equally as valid as our own.

(yes this is just me standing on a soapbox bitching about "modern" society)

 

[OrganicZed]

I use one main tone, so I allow myself a small amount of time to tweak the few presets I use, (if that day it sounds like I want to improve it), save it to a new slot, then get to playing. Most days that's all I need. Some days it takes a little longer (not sure why; I have my main sound pretty much where I want it), but even that's getting to be rare.

I honestly don't get the infatuation with endless tweaking and gear churn. I mean, isn't the goal at the end of the day to be playing, whether it's for self-improvement in my case, or writing/recording (in which case I certainly understand the desire to find new tones, but it should still be a means to an end), or playing in a band? I dunno...

Ducks for cover...

I see playing and tone exploration as two separate endeavors. 95% of the time I am just going to plug in, select a preset, and play. I can get everything I need from switching scenes, adjusting the volume / tone / pickup selector, or navigating the effects layout of my FC12. In the context of practice, rehearsal, or live playing this is all that I need.

The other 5% of time spent tone exploring is for fun and just to see if something new inspires me. Most of the time I just go back to playing one of my previously dialed in sounds, but I do occasionally strike gold and build a new preset or add to my existing presets using what I've discovered. I know that some people use sound exploration to help with writer's block, but I'm not really a song writer.

 

[Achilles]

I see playing and tone exploration as two separate endeavors.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Being retired there's literally too much free time to jam.
It was great at first but after a while you gotta put the damn guitar down.
That's where the gear and everything associative to it comes in!

 

[TSJMajesty]

I knew this would happen.

Look I get that you can have a muscle car and not actually drive it because you like to tune the engine. Or you like the restoration part. Or whatever.

But from from reading many posts here, it seems, I could be wrong, that for a certain segment, the vast majority of the whole thing is centered around just the gear aspect, and hardly anything else. People post about how close the Axe is to the Helix, yet these same people talk about buying and then selling the same item 3 or more times. As I said, I don't get that. That part seems quite counterproductive, if I make the assumption that we all started this process by wanting to play guitar.

If it's indeed a blend of the 2, that makes complete sense to me. And even if people sit down and spend lots of their time creating crazy presets, just because they can, and want to see just how many awesome sounds they can get, then again, I understand that appeal.

But I still have a hard time understanding that if the end goal is not to actually make or play music, which again, is what it seems to be with many, that part, I just don't understand. But that DOES NOT MEAN that I can't respect someone if that's all they want to do.

We have these endless discussions of what's wrong with the Fractal UI, saying the same things over and over, yet hardly any activity at all in the actual guitar playing/theory forum. It just makes me wonder how many of those people really play their guitar.

And don't forget..., just as someone can say, "All ways are valid, and should be respected", or however you want to word it, that also applies to my thoughts on the subject.

 

[Piing]

I knew this would happen.

Look I get that you can have a muscle car and not actually drive it because you like to tune the engine. Or you like the restoration part. Or whatever.

But from from reading many posts here, it seems, I could be wrong, that for a certain segment, the vast majority of the whole thing is centered around just the gear aspect, and hardly anything else. People post about how close the Axe is to the Helix, yet these same people talk about buying and then selling the same item 3 or more times. As I said, I don't get that. That part seems quite counterproductive, if I make the assumption that we all started this process by wanting to play guitar.

If it's indeed a blend of the 2, that makes complete sense to me. And even if people sit down and spend lots of their time creating crazy presets, just because they can, and want to see just how many awesome sounds they can get, then again, I understand that appeal.

But I still have a hard time understanding that if the end goal is not to actually make or play music, which again, is what it seems to be with many, that part, I just don't understand. But that DOES NOT MEAN that I can't respect someone if that's all they want to do.

We have these endless discussions of what's wrong with the Fractal UI, saying the same things over and over, yet hardly any activity at all in the actual guitar playing/theory forum. It just makes me wonder how many of those people really play their guitar.

And don't forget..., just as someone can say, "All ways are valid, and should be respected", or however you want to word it, that also applies to my thoughts on the subject.

I'm a shit player, but a super-star tweaker

 

[iaresee]

I'm a shit player, but a super-star tweaker

 

[Whizzinby]

Plot twist: I don’t even own a guitar!

 

[paisleywookiee]

Lose the labels and it’s perfect.

Like a modeler version of Das Keyboard?

 

[TSJMajesty]

Plot twist: I don’t even own a guitar!

What do you call a bass player without a girlfriend?

Homeless.

 

[Orvillain]