Fractal Talk

[PBGas]

Hey PB, I'm running across older posts of yours on TheTearsPage, and you're digging the Friedman ASC-10's. Do you still like those as well, or have you completely moved on to the EV's?

I'm also thinking of punting on my amps, as I seriously never use them or my pedalboard anymore, just the Fractal. I kinda want something that looks "speaker cab-like", which I know is shallow of me, but I just think it's cool.

Bud....I liked the ASC-10s at the time I had them. I installed some tilt back arms on mine and they worked well. However, they did not have a great spread because they really weren't designed for that. They are a solid unit for that cab like feel. Mine weighed in at 44lbs each. Not what is advertised.

The PLX is on another level. The clarity and punch from this thing is nuts! This is the first time I am really, really happy with an "FRFR" solution. What I like most is the form factor and the weight as well being under 30lbs!

I totally get it with not using amps live anymore. I'm not. Once in a while I'll bring the Bogner (I have the 50W XTC) and use the Two-Notes captor X into the board. I still will monitor it with the PLX though.

 

[Stone]

The PLX is on another level. The clarity and punch from this thing is nuts!

 

[PBGas]

Now I am thinking stereo!!! Don't need it but....you know how that goes......

 

[jellodog]

I can see what's going to happen here as the GAS grows stronger. There's usually a shortage of supply for this sort of item (PXM) in Canada, so me and @Stone will end up wrestling over the same one.

 

[Stone]

Now I am thinking stereo!!! Don't need it but....you know how that goes......

in home environment stereo is glorious

 

[JiveTurkey]

I prefer the CLR to the EV. More clarity imo. The EV is PUNCHY AF though.

 

[Stone]

TGF The GAS Forum

 

[JiveTurkey]

Zero GAS for powered monitors.

 

[Mongillo19]

Zero GAS for powered monitors.

For my needs, studio monitors are where it's at

 

[PBGas]

I can see what's going to happen here as the GAS grows stronger. There's usually a shortage of supply for this sort of item (PXM) in Canada, so me and @Stone will end up wrestling over the same one.

Yup....I got lucky and I got one up here as well. They are backordered so they probably won't have any until Oct at the earliest from what I found out. I know Long-McQuade has about 10 on order from early July.

 

[Stone]

Zero GAS for powered monitors.

Boogies dont need no stinking Powered Monitors

 

[GTR37]

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I think you missed an FM9 ?

 

[GTR37]

I prefer the CLR to the EV. More clarity imo. The EV is PUNCHY AF though.

They are close I believe
The CLR does have a bit more clarity in the mids a bit more hi fi
The EV wider sound dispersesion
And more punch I would say the EV
Kind of sits between the CLR and something like a Freidman or Redsound which is more cab like

 

[Whizzinby]

For my needs, studio monitors are where it's at

Yeah, I came to that realization for me as well, after using the Mission Engineering FRTurdFR 212 for a while. A pair of decent studio monitors kicked it’s ass.

 

[la szum]

FRFRs with DSP scare the fuck out of me because they add more latency. Latency is the boogieman.

 

[Stone]

"FRFR" is a made Up term by the spin doctors in marketing 101
For me they are powered cabs which work really well with Modelers
But thats my thoughts in my world
Don't forget
YMMV

 

[ᛗᛜᛜᚺDᛜᎶ Ꮤᛨᚳᚴ]

"FRFR" is a made Up term by the spin doctors in marketing 101
For me they are powered cabs which work really well with Modelers
But thats my thoughts in my world
Don't forget
YMMV

If the Spin Doctors made it up, then a little miss can't be wrong!

 

[Blix]

FRFRs with DSP scare the fuck out of me because they add more latency. Latency is the boogieman.

That was a thing when I shopped for studio monitos, no DSP thanks!

 

[paisleywookiee]

I think you missed an FM9 ?

Yeah PB needs that for the bigger than small but not quite too big gigs!

Meanwhile, Cliff at FAS:

 

[la szum]

That was a thing when I shopped for studio monitos, no DSP thanks!

Can you share more on that? Without getting into the quagmire that is the latency conversation.