Fractal Talk

[Whizzinby]

Call it "EVH xxx", or call it "Fender EVH xxx". (Or "USA EVH xxx" or whatever the legal department signs off on.) The point is, renaming amps is low-hanging fruit vs. implementing a metadata/ tagging/ filtering scheme. Categorizing amps based on gain is sketchy, too, since quality of gain isn't always an obvious scalar comparison (and gain controls are such that many amps overlap here.

100%. This is a much more clean naming convention and makes it simple . Everything gets grouped by an easy identifier.

 

[laxu]

I believe someone on the Fractal forum once said that amps are listed and referenced using their slot ID, rather than name string. So you'd change the names, but the positions in the lists wouldn't change. Your Fender EVH 5153 amps would still be at the front of the list, and your Twin Reverb would be towards the end of the list.

So... OK... change the list.

Oh fuck. Just broke everyone's presets, because the preset system is index based, not string based.

(I'm guessing there, but hopefully you see my point)

They get referenced by the ID number of the amp in the amp list enum afaik. The amp enum is not in alphabetical order but just gets new items added as new amp models get brought in.

So renaming the amps should not break anything.

 

[mbenigni]

I believe someone on the Fractal forum once said that amps are listed and referenced using their slot ID, rather than name string. So you'd change the names, but the positions in the lists wouldn't change. Your Fender EVH 5153 amps would still be at the front of the list, and your Twin Reverb would be towards the end of the list.

So... OK... change the list.

Oh fuck. Just broke everyone's presets, because the preset system is index based, not string based.

(I'm guessing there, but hopefully you see my point)

I have to imagine this could be easily addressed. You leave the slot IDs as they are, you change the description strings, you change the amp model menu to sort according to description strings. Bob=uncle.

 

[la szum]

Lots of wordy fuming and contentiousness in the last 10-20 pages. It's exhausting.



Hope you all are enjoying yourselves.

 

[mbenigni]

Lots of wordy fuming and contentiousness in the last 10-20 pages. It's exhausting.



Hope you all are enjoying yourselves.

Compared with the alternatives at hand, it's been splendid. :)

(Seriously though, you call this "contentious"??)

 

[iaresee]

Armchair engineering is amusing

 

[mikah912]

You guys often give me food for thought amidst the welcome silliness.

The naming convention is convoluted, for sure, and could use some reorganization. I guess I haven't felt the impact because I only ever dive into this stuff when I'm at my laptop with FM9 edit open along with a Chrome window or two with Fractal Wiki pages open (because I usually only do this when there is new firmware with new amps).

In general, I think it should be easier to do this stuff on the fly with the on-unit UI and it should also be easier (actually, I don't even know if it's possible with just the on-unit UI) to draw up favorite blocks from the whatever block library you have on hand. Most of Fractal's competition - even scrubs like Headrush and the QC - are way better at making this stuff easy and effortless.

 

[mbenigni]

Armchair engineering is amusing

Now this is "contentious".

 

[GTR37]

But the manufacturer is Fender.

That would be like shopping for a hi gain amp at a boutique a place where women go to buy their underwear

 

[JiveTurkey]

Let's get to the bottom of this, they said. It'll be fun, they said.

 

[jellodog]

Lots of wordy fuming and contentiousness in the last 10-20 pages. It's exhausting.

At least it's not on the gahddam FIRMWARE UPDATE thread again

 

[la szum]

At least it's not on the gahddam FIRMWARE UPDATE thread again

You are right. It is way worse than that.

 

[JiveTurkey]

For what it's worth despite all this (sometimes un)healthy back and forth; Fractal Is Still KingTM

 

[TubeStack]

Lots of wordy fuming and contentiousness in the last 10-20 pages. It's exhausting.



Hope you all are enjoying yourselves.

I’ve been waiting for your scolding!

 

[JiveTurkey]

I’ve been waiting for your scolding!

Always Be ScoldingTM

 

[la szum]

Like I tell my son all the time, "It is not a criticism. Just an observation."

 

[la szum]

Always Be ScoldingTM

 

[Orvillain]

That would be like shopping for a hi gain amp at a boutique a place where women go to buy their underwear

Fender make the EVH amps. Sorry!!

<ducks>

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[la szum]

Can someone please resuscitate the dead Horse that is the Fractal UI so we can beat
it to death some more?