Fractal Talk

[JiveTurkey]

So, refreshing my memory, you don't have the FM9 anymore? If not, do you ever wish you had it, when using the FM3?

My happiness with the GT1000FX as a power amp for the QC (which I"m still loving) has planted a strong curiosity of "what would a Fractal sound like with this," I can't deny.

Just debating between waiting for FM9s to be back in stock or grabbing a new (or maybe used) FM3... or waiting until the curiosity passes.

If you are happy with where you are; I say stick with it if you can. I don't have the 9 anymore; just the 3 and the III. The FM allows me to add more analog/standalone pedals on my board that I need.

I could see an FM9 and exp being a killer combo with your Matrix and cab. I know your rationale of "might as well just bring my amp if that's the case" but the FM9 as your pedals and amp models is a clean AF setup.

 

[GTR37]

So, refreshing my memory, you don't have the FM9 anymore? If not, do you ever wish you had it, when using the FM3?

My happiness with the GT1000FX as a power amp for the QC (which I"m still loving) has planted a strong curiosity of "what would a Fractal sound like with this," I can't deny.

Just debating between waiting for FM9s to be back in stock or grabbing a new (or maybe used) FM3... or waiting until the curiosity passes.

As mentioned in a few posts
IF Fractal gets that gapless switching working in the FM3
The FM9s extra amp block and CPU becomes much less of a draw , especially if you change your workflow to using presets
One for clean , one for crunch one for less etc
Now you won’t have to use a do it all kitchen sink preset
And CPU constraints become much less of and issue

 

[jellodog]

IF Fractal gets that gapless switching working in the FM3
The FM9s extra amp block and CPU becomes much less of a draw , especially if you change your workflow to using presets
One for clean , one for crunch one for less etc
Now you won’t have to use a do it all kitchen sink preset

That's true, and an excellent point.

However, we've seen that you need a little extra CPU overhead to do the gapless switching in the first place. Nobody yet knows what the percentage hit will be to the FM3 if FAS can get it ported.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I'll be surprised if it makes it to the FM3 tbh.

 

[TubeStack]

I know your rationale of "might as well just bring my amp if that's the case"

Well, that's more connected to bringing a tube head as a power amp for a modeler; I'd rather just use the tube head on its own, if I'm bringing it.

But I fully intend on gigging this Matrix + Recto 2x12 + QC setup this year. It sounds insanely good, largely because the capture of my Dyne is pure (the amp models are good but not FAS level).

But in a lot of ways, I'd feel more secure with a FAS setup and am very curious about trying one with the Matrix. (I only had the ISP Steallth Pro when I last had the FM9.)

Also probably just an excuse to buy sh*t and endlessly try it out!

 

[JiveTurkey]

Well, that's more connected to bringing a tube head as a power amp for a modeler; I'd rather just use the tube head on its own, if I'm bringing it.

But I fully intend on gigging this Matrix + Recto 2x12 + QC setup this year. It sounds insanely good, largely because the capture of my Dyne is pure (the amp models are good but not FAS level).

But in a lot of ways, I'd feel more secure with a FAS setup and am very curious about trying one with the Matrix. (I only had the ISP Steallth Pro when I last had the FM9.)

Also probably just an excuse to buy sh*t and endlessly try it out!

Are your presets that complex? Maybe give the Turbo a 15 day trial and see how it pans out

 

[Aleksi]

I can't qualify for you if that extra processing power is worth the price difference; but I think 11% positive wiggle room is a good thing. I can run my almost kitchen sink preset on the FM3. I am right around 80% and I would certainly not mind the extra bump for peace of mind? That aside; I really appreciate the FM and the III in their own ways for what they are. Good stuff \m/

I'm under the impression that it's basically like 6-7 percentage points more useable DSP?

 

[JiveTurkey]

I'm under the impression that it's basically like 6-7 percentage points more useable DSP?

I was going by what Matt said over at the FAS forum. Not sure what it actually translates to in reality?

 

[Stratzrus]

So, refreshing my memory, you don't have the FM9 anymore? If not, do you ever wish you had it, when using the FM3?

After I got my FM9 I sold my FM3 but there are times when I wish I still had it.

But if I could only have one it would definitely be the FM9. The additional footswitches are a big plus for me

 

[Aleksi]

I was going by what Matt said over at the FAS forum. Not sure what it actually translates to in reality?

I'm sure it's around 11% but what it means in useable percentage points is more meaningful to me

 

[jellodog]

I'm under the impression that it's basically like 6-7 percentage points more useable DSP?

500 MHz / 450 = 1.11

i.e. 11%.

But yes, the real usable percentage may well be different on the device.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I'm sure it's around 11% but what it means in useable percentage points is more meaningful to me

For me; it would really just be a bit more peace of mind wiggle room on tap verus how many more blocks I can add.

 

[Aleksi]

I tried building a patch along with a Leon Todd turbo vid. I counted about a 6-7 % point difference in the upper end. It's a bit difficult to compare however because it fluctuates a bit.

 

[Aleksi]

If they get the gapless working that'll make it less important, since you can just swap out blocks per preset. Unless gapless uses way more dsp. Bah. Maybe I should just go for the Turbo anyway

 

[TubeStack]

IF Fractal gets that gapless switching working in the FM3

That seems like a big "if" though... I wouldn't be surprised if it's not do-able.

 

[gonzoknife]

After I got my FM9 I sold my FM3 but there are times when I wish I still had it.

But if I could only have one it would definitely be the FM9. The additional footswitches are a big plus for me

Same

 

[Frodebro]

As mentioned in a few posts
IF Fractal gets that gapless switching working in the FM3
The FM9s extra amp block and CPU becomes much less of a draw , especially if you change your workflow to using presets
One for clean , one for crunch one for less etc
Now you won’t have to use a do it all kitchen sink preset
And CPU constraints become much less of and issue

The big draw for me to add an FM9 to the accumulation was the variable input impedance and additional reverb and amp blocks. I was using the FM3 with my band and leaving the Axe 3 at home, but I started coming up with some really great stuff in the rack unit that the FM3 simply could not do, particularly running a clean/EOB amp in parallel with a dirty amp, which is something I do all the time when recording stuff.

 

[Whizzinby]

 

[deadpool_25]

Fuck you and fuck your two pitch blocks

Edit: to be clear, IJK. I'm happy enough with using my Drop up front. Does the virtual capo thing just fine and I don't have to "waste" CPU on that because as you can see in my next post...I'm tapped out!

 

[deadpool_25]

Go ahead and make that on a non-Fractal modeler. I'll wait.