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What are we watching now?
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I think I might like it more than I did when I saw it in the theater. It was just a LOT more drama than I wanted. Isn't Frank Grillo in it as well? I don't watch stuff with him in it for drama
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Not boring at all. It's such a crazy story, and the fact that it actually happened. Because it's Affleck telling the story, he makes it awesome from beginning to end. I don't give a fuck about Air from 2023, but the only other one by him that I'm less that in awe of is Live By Night from from 2016; that one was still good, but not at the godly status of the three I listed.
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I think I might like it more than I did when I saw it in the theater. It was just a LOT more drama than I wanted. Isn't Frank Grillo in it as well? I don't watch stuff with him in it for drama
haha I had to look up how that is. I don't know his work at all, even though he's been in a million things.
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He's a bit lowbrow for your normal fare
He's great at the thing most films have him doing though.
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He's a bit lowbrow for your normal fare
Still Bloodsport, Predator, and Rambo II are some of my favorite movies, so I don't know what to tell you there. I'm all over the place haha.
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These are all great. Low brow or no
I'm about the same.
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Oh, and the big elephant in the room when you watch The Town I forgot to mention somehow: it is 100% an homage to Heat, in the very best possible way. But it has elements that are better than Heat, namely Jeremy Renner. To me Michael Mann's downfall is that he doesn't hire people for their character and personality, and he doesn't know how to bring that out of people; the actors have to bring that on their own. Luckily Mann worked with Al Pacino, who has more character and personality than 100 other actors combined. But Affleck can take anyone and make sure they come out with character and personality, and it's awesome. That's fucking talent.
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Even Blake Lively, now that I think of it. In The Town she's full of feel, and you can just sense her whole life from the few scenes she's in. I haven't watched anything else with her I remember, but I do know she's nothing like the character she played here, and she's fucking great. Even the minor characters here move the story in the best possible way, where everyone seems to be cast for their inherent general vibe, if you will. Some characters don't even have to say anything to put across exactly what you need. He really made use of this in Gone Baby Gone, I mean, really made use of this. He does that thing through his casting to that I love about the best of movies, where they feel like reading a well written novel, and he does it by adding interesting elements where other directors don't. Little shots of something that just tells its own story, that means nothing to what's going on, but tells you everything about the world he's portraying. He does that with extras too, focusing on someone just talking in the street, and that person just gives off a feel that makes the whole thing feel real.
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He's a great director. No pushback on me from that at all.
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Counterpoint:
50 Things We Say Now, Thanks to ‘S.N.L.’
Since “Saturday Night Live” began, the show has introduced catchphrases that wind up in our own conversations. Isn’t that special?
Or maybe not "counterpoint" exactly. But SNL does have that way of being inherently quotable, not unlike so many objectively bad films. If for no other reason than we can assume nearly everyone will get the reference.
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The good SNL stuff is good naturally. Like a lot of comedy things. It's not forcing you to think it's funny. The bad; not so much. And that's all eras of the show, not just my oh so precious "when I was 15 years old" sweet spotCounterpoint:
50 Things We Say Now, Thanks to ‘S.N.L.’
Since “Saturday Night Live” began, the show has introduced catchphrases that wind up in our own conversations. Isn’t that special?www.nytimes.com
Or maybe not "counterpoint" exactly. But SNL does have that way of being inherently quotable, not unlike so many objectively bad films. If for no other reason than we can assume nearly everyone will get the reference.
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I probably went through about 30 or so of them, and that's about all of the SNL crap I can tolerate.The good SNL stuff is good naturally. Like a lot of comedy things. It's not forcing you to think it's funny. The bad; not so much. And that's all eras of the show, not just my oh so precious "when I was 15 years old" sweet spot
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I made it to about 3 LOL.
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We just watched Dead Poets Society. I've loved it since it came out. To me this is a film that everyone should see, like a guidebook to life. I put a few films in this category, like Equus.
A lot of times it's easy for me just to be despondent about the world, to forget that there can be people who understand what we're all doing anything for. That's the purpose of art to me, to remind you of why you do everything else.
A lot of times it's easy for me just to be despondent about the world, to forget that there can be people who understand what we're all doing anything for. That's the purpose of art to me, to remind you of why you do everything else.
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Watched this last night. Agree completely on this sentiment. It was really good. It was Get Out centered on females combined with a vague 'Midsommar-minus-the-folklore' vibe? Very good and the wrap up was perfect. No "Social media let's go to a rave!" BS either
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I watched Sicario 1 and 2 this weekend. Seen them before, but rewatched because i wanted that Villeneuve.... thing... he did there, and that was carried over to the second film (by others).
i think the Benicio scene is the one to mention here
But it does require one to "take it in" as if it where a book. Its just not a casual chill action flick. It sucks as such....
Its the atmosphere, soundtrack (that constant monotonous bass thing), the moral (or lack of), dilemmas, feelings, and all that.
And while speaking of, long ago i read the book "The power of the dog" by Don Winslow. The Sicario movies was (i think) inspired by that book, and they kind of capture that whole dark depressive mood although the book is vastly more cruel and brutal. Worth reading. One the best books ive read.
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It also reminds me very much about the later Villeneuve "stuff" like Dune, again... the sound and cinemtic sweep and sound there.
i think the Benicio scene is the one to mention here
But it does require one to "take it in" as if it where a book. Its just not a casual chill action flick. It sucks as such....
Its the atmosphere, soundtrack (that constant monotonous bass thing), the moral (or lack of), dilemmas, feelings, and all that.
And while speaking of, long ago i read the book "The power of the dog" by Don Winslow. The Sicario movies was (i think) inspired by that book, and they kind of capture that whole dark depressive mood although the book is vastly more cruel and brutal. Worth reading. One the best books ive read.
The Power of the Dog (Winslow novel) - Wikipedia
It also reminds me very much about the later Villeneuve "stuff" like Dune, again... the sound and cinemtic sweep and sound there.
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