Echo and I could use some good vibes right now

[EOengineer]

@DrewJD82 I’m so sorry this happened. Vet surgeries are the worst, and recovery can be uncomfortable for all involved. Ask me how I know. This was surgery #4 last week.

Regarding Echo picking up items on the ground - you will likely need to put a mask on his snout. You can find lightweight mesh ones that aren’t too obtrusive. We have to do this with one of our hounds and it’s honestly saved us a number of times.

He’s gonna hate it at first but you likely don’t have many alternatives.

 

[DrewJD82]

@DrewJD82 I’m so sorry this happened. Vet surgeries are the worst, and recovery can be uncomfortable for all involved. Ask me how I know. This was surgery #4 last week.

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Regarding Echo picking up items on the ground - you will likely need to put a mask on his snout. You can find lightweight mesh ones that aren’t too obtrusive. We have to do this with one of our hounds and it’s honestly saved us a number of times.

He’s gonna hate it at first but you likely don’t have many alternatives.

Oh damn, that looks like a tough recovery period just from that pic!!!

And yeah, I'm definitely leaning towards some type of muzzle for him for his walks. I know he won't dig it, but he's absolutely not digging life right now. Since he's feeling a bit better I'm catching the vibe he's frustrated that he can't really do anything. The quick walk took a good amount out of him, but after a nap and eating some food he stood there like "What's next? I wanna do somethin" and laying down and resting is the only thing he can do right now.

A buddy of mine has never owned a dog, love/relationships are kind of out of his ballpark entirely, never mind with animals, but he made a comment about how Echo's surgery was a scam and I should have reconsidered it, at which point I told him the only thing I was reconsidering was informing him of actual important issues when they pop up. Should have heard that dude when I went through my divorce!

 

[DrewJD82]

Wow. He is so beautiful.

If he is not easily swallowing his meds, you can embed them inside a makeshift ball of foodstuffs he likes e.g. part of a boiled egg after removing the shell.

Hahahah yeah, he's my 3rd dog so I've got some experience in hiding pills in cheese, peanut butter, wet dog food, etc.

I was using his Kong peanut butter yesterday but he caught on that I was giving him meds and doesn't want it anymore. This morning I had to do the finger-prying opening his mouth and popped them in real quick. Dog has no problem eating nasty, spoiled food off the ground but try giving him a pill he needs and all of a sudden he's got reservations.

 

[Mongillo19]

A whopping $30 a month could have prevented this financial hole I’ll be in for a while.

I'm glad you were able to get insurance! I was wondering how that would work with him already having surgery but given his age I'm sure it's not a huge issue.

Keep in mind that standard visits don't count towards anything and they sometimes don't cover pain meds or other odds and ends they give during a surgery. However, the actual surgery/treatment itself is covered/counts towards the deductible

 

[DrewJD82]

I'm glad you were able to get insurance! I was wondering how that would work with him already having surgery but given his age I'm sure it's not a huge issue.

Keep in mind that standard visits don't count towards anything and they sometimes don't cover pain meds or other odds and ends they give during a surgery. However, the actual surgery/treatment itself is covered/counts towards the deductible

I haven't actually signed him up yet, but when I do I'll make a post about the process.

 

[TSJMajesty]

Glad he's coming along! Sounds like he's turning a corner. Animals don't always know what's bad for them. Kinda like humans in many ways.

 

[DrewJD82]

Glad he's coming along! Sounds like he's turning a corner. Animals don't always know what's bad for them. Kinda like humans in many ways.

Yeah, I just saw a different kind of red than I've ever seen before; took him for a walk and when he tried eating trash and I pulled him away, he lunged for it and tried again. Unfuckingbelievable. I've opened 4 diifferent types of dog food for him today trying to get him to eat, no cheap shit, it's all stuff that looks like I'd eat it.......not a lick....but fucking trash on the ground and he's going right for it.

Muzzle ordered, it'll be here tomorrow. I'm not fucking around with this at all.

 

[PLX]

The unfortunate thing is that he does the same thing before he poops as he does before he's ready to eat something

same here

 

[Stone]

Damn Drew sorry to hear that, happy to hear hes doing Ok
Shit I dont see cause of fucking work constantly

 

[Holden Afart]

same here

Butt play?

 

[newpedals]

They are fighters. Give him some time, he will bounce back.

 

[Frankencat]

Healing prayers and vibes for Echo. Drew you are a great doggie daddy.

 

[jaxadam]

Oh damn, that looks like a tough recovery period just from that pic!!!

And yeah, I'm definitely leaning towards some type of muzzle for him for his walks. I know he won't dig it, but he's absolutely not digging life right now. Since he's feeling a bit better I'm catching the vibe he's frustrated that he can't really do anything. The quick walk took a good amount out of him, but after a nap and eating some food he stood there like "What's next? I wanna do somethin" and laying down and resting is the only thing he can do right now.

A buddy of mine has never owned a dog, love/relationships are kind of out of his ballpark entirely, never mind with animals, but he made a comment about how Echo's surgery was a scam and I should have reconsidered it, at which point I told him the only thing I was reconsidering was informing him of actual important issues when they pop up. Should have heard that dude when I went through my divorce!

Something I do with dogs when they are younger and I start walking them is I take a bag of treats with me. I will sometimes include HVTs (high-value treats like sliced up hot dogs).

For any situation where I want to redirect them, I just start feeding them treats. If they start lunging, pulling, barking at other dogs, going after stuff, I just start feeding treats one after another and if they encounter a situation that overrides the normal treat I will use the HVTs.

 

[DrewJD82]

Something I do with dogs when they are younger and I start walking them is I take a bag of treats with me. I will sometimes include HVTs (high-value treats like sliced up hot dogs).

For any situation where I want to redirect them, I just start feeding them treats. If they start lunging, pulling, barking at other dogs, going after stuff, I just start feeding treats one after another and if they encounter a situation that overrides the normal treat I will use the HVTs.

Hmm, I wonder how effective this would be with a 2.5 year old husky. They tend to have a “IDGAF” streak I’ve never seen in other breeds.

 

[jaxadam]

Hmm, I wonder how effective this would be with a 2.5 year old husky. They tend to have a “IDGAF” streak I’ve never seen in other breeds.

You'd be surprised how well it will work, even at that age. I still periodically do it with our 3 year old female dobie. When we walk, she now automatically stops and sits at every intersections.

One training tool that is effective but that I do not believe in at all are shock collars. The alternative to not following a command should never be pain.

 

[la szum]

Hmm, I wonder how effective this would be with a 2.5 year old husky. They tend to have a “IDGAF” streak I’ve never seen in other breeds.

Seems like their predatory instinct (hunting) is stronger and has been
less bred out than other domesticated dog breeds. Probably that with
a combo of needing to do that previously in life so he could simply
survive makes that trait a VERY strong on in him.

You'll probably be repeating yourself a lot with Echo.

Glad to hear he is bouncing back so well, Drew.

 

[la szum]

You'd be surprised how well it will work, even at that age. I still periodically do it with our 3 year old female dobie. When we walk, she now automatically stops and sits at every intersections.

One training tool that is effective but that I do not believe in at all are shock collars. The alternative to not following a command should never be pain.

Same with kids. Positive reinforcement and enticement of rewards for where you want them
to go works far better versus negative reinforcement and punishment for where you don't want
them to go.

"Don't touch that!" versus "Hey, look at this!"

 

[jaxadam]

Seems like their predatory instinct (hunting) is stronger and has been
less bred out than other domesticated dog breeds. Probably that with
a combo of needing to do that previously in life so he could simply
survive makes that trait a VERY strong on in him.

You'll probably be repeating yourself a lot with Echo.

Glad to hear he is bouncing back so well, Drew.

Sorry, I revise my position…. I highly recommend shock collars for children!

 

[DrewJD82]

You'd be surprised how well it will work, even at that age. I still periodically do it with our 3 year old female dobie. When we walk, she now automatically stops and sits at every intersections.

One training tool that is effective but that I do not believe in at all are shock collars. The alternative to not following a command should never be pain.

Yeah, pain is absolutely not anything I’ll use to train any dog.

I’ll give this a shot but that muzzle is still going to get used. He did it again today, the second I turned my head he dove for a piece of paper like his life depended on it. It’s dumbfounding how intelligent he is in some areas and then just a lunatic in others.

 

[ᛗᛜᛜᚺDᛜᎶ Ꮤᛨᚳᚴ]

Well first of all, glad Echo is doing better! Totally sucks and I just had to take one of my cats to the vet on an emergency visit 2 days ago ($618 trip to vet with no real solution or prognosis) ;~(( Before I go muzzle or treats, I might change the name ;~)) I mean, if you keep calling him Echo, he is likely to try and live up to his name, echoing previous behavior (just kidding of course)!! Power to the heel for Mr. Echo!!! Here are some pix of my cat Lyle from Monday (the only cool thing I got for that money).