What are we watching now?

[TSJMajesty]

What was the point of The Irishman? I've watched it a couple of times now, (months apart) and I kinda think overall it was pretty lame.

And I have to agree with @State of Epicicity , at least I think it was you, who was saying how DeNiro's acting has gone downhill. In fact, I thought all 3 of em, him, Pesci, & Pacino kinda sucked. I mean that phone call to Hoffa's wife (or whomever it was, near the end, I really wasn't paying much attention by that time) where DeNiro is all toungue-tied and stuttering was atrocious.

Maybe not as much with Pesci, but their characters just don't seem all that different from other movies. Pacino's acting seemed quite similar to who he was in Heat, and even to maybe a lesser degree, but still a lot like his Colonel Slade.

Idk, maybe I need to put down the guitar while watching movies, and focus on one or the other.

 

[JiveTurkey]

What was the point of The Irishman? I've watched it a couple of times now, (months apart) and I kinda think overall it was pretty lame.

And I have to agree with @State of Epicicity , at least I think it was you, who was saying how DeNiro's acting has gone downhill. In fact, I thought all 3 of em, him, Pesci, & Pacino kinda sucked. I mean that phone call to Hoffa's wife (or whomever it was, near the end, I really wasn't paying much attention by that time) where DeNiro is all toungue-tied and stuttering was atrocious.

Maybe not as much with Pesci, but their characters just don't seem all that different from other movies. Pacino's acting seemed quite similar to who he was in Heat, and even to maybe a lesser degree, but still a lot like his Colonel Slade.

Idk, maybe I need to put down the guitar while watching movies, and focus on one or the other.

DeNiro has been insufferable for decades and picks ATROCIOUS movies. Last flick he was in that I liked was The Family but beyond that; he's sucked since forever. This has been compounded by the fact that he was one of the best to ever do it for so long. Until he wasn't.

Pacino hasn't been in anything great for a long time but once in a while he does good stuff. He was in that Nazi hunter series on Netflix and he was good in that. Oddly enough; was watching the last really good Pacino movie last night (Insomnia). He is great in that. Pesci I think doesn't really care because he was in enough iconic blockbusters he can kick back and do whatever he wants and not act unless he really wants to.

 

[State of Epicicity]

I remember liking The Irishman, but I definitely think DeNiro has sucked since he embraced comedy. Ever since, whether he's in a drama or comedy, he's the same as he is in interviews, and I feel like he's just old and lazy and doesn't care but enjoys having a camera on him. Such a contrast to the guy in The Mission.

Pacino is very much the same guy in everything, but I just love him. He's pretty much always in movies that look like they're going to be forgettable these days, and he was in so many movies I thought were not worth it after I saw them (like The Recruit and 88 Minutes), that he just became associated with crap in his later period. I still love him in general and would try most movies he's in, but one that looked interesting starts Channing Tatum, and I just can't bring myself to watch anything with that fuckhead!

Pesci is really interesting to me. I think he's a really cool actor who was in some real crap, but I think he's still interesting and compelling. I just have feeling he's capable of a lot more than his most famous films give credit for.

About the Irishman, I remember having liked DeNiro more than usual but still not feeling he was near his potential, but I loved Pacino as I often do. But the surprise to me was Pesci, who I thought was intimidating and fantastic. That actually made me really wish he had been given a bunch of serious roles as the lead for most of his career. And in the special feature interview with Scorsese and the three actors, Pesci came off like a real mob boss, and it was disturbing but really cool as hell. The disturbing part was, he didn't come off like a charming mob boss with a good sense of humor, more like a real life Gustavo Fring in a bad mood.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I remember liking The Irishman, but I definitely think DeNiro has sucked since he embraced comedy. Ever since, whether he's in a drama or comedy, he's the same as he is in interviews, and I feel like he's just old and lazy and doesn't care but enjoys having a camera on him. Such a contrast to the guy in The Mission.

Pacino is very much the same guy in everything, but I just love him. He's pretty much always in movies that look like they're going to be forgettable these days, and he was in so many movies I thought were not worth it after I saw them (like The Recruit and 88 Minutes), that he just became associated with crap in his later period. I still love him in general and would try most movies he's in, but one that looked interesting starts Channing Tatum, and I just can't bring myself to watch anything with that fuckhead!

Pesci is really interesting to me. I think he's a really cool actor who was in some real crap, but I think he's still interesting and compelling. I just have feeling he's capable of a lot more than his most famous films give credit for.

About the Irishman, I remember having liked DeNiro more than usual but still not feeling he was near his potential, but I loved Pacino as I often do. But the surprise to me was Pesci, who I thought was intimidating and fantastic. That actually made me really wish he had been given a bunch of serious roles as the lead for most of his career. And in the special feature interview with Scorsese and the three actors, Pesci came off like a real mob boss, and it was disturbing but really cool as hell. The disturbing part was, he didn't come off like a charming mob boss with a good sense of humor, more like a real life Gustavo Fring in a bad mood.

I won't watch Tatum in serious roles but he is great in dumb comedies. If you dig dumb humor; 21 Jump Street and the sequel are great

 

[State of Epicicity]

I won't watch Tatum in serious roles but he is great in dumb comedies. If you dig dumb humor; 21 Jump Street and the sequel are great

That's good to know. Comedies are where I'm really weak in what I know; I've just watched do few of them compared to any other genre. As far what's dumb or not in comedy, I don't know, honestly. Like,i favorite comedian is Mitch Hedberg, who I think was a genius, but I worked with a really smart guy who thought Hedberg was dumb. And all the modern comedians I like are ones who strike me as incredibly intelligent, from Mike Birbiglia to Gary Gulman to John Mulany, Tom Segura, and Sheng Wang. But I don't know about movies, what would actually work for me. I loved Napoleon Dynamite when we saw it for the first time just within the past couple of weeks, and that surprised me.

 

[la szum]

Streamed the first three episodes of Landman last night. Pretty good show....love Billy Bob Thornton's character in this.

Did you see Goliath on Prime? It's another BBT series that is excellent.

 

[norminal]

but I definitely think DeNiro has sucked since he embraced comedy.

This. I can’t take him seriously in anything since watching Meet The Parents.

 

[Rock Chalk]

Did you see Goliath on Prime? It's another BBT series that is excellent.

Have not, but looks like I might have to.

 

[Aelred]

TV Shows… so many start wonderfully only to end badly, at least IMHO.

Arcane Season 2 is but a pale shadow of the first, which prompted this.
The Sopranos – I gave up during season 5, I think. Maybe 4.
Battlestar Galactica – loved it until they jumped the shark with Starbuck returning in Season 3/4. Not a Cylon, not a vision ala 6...
Buffy the Vampire Slayer – she should have died at the end of Season 5. Dawn was the Key.
Deadwood – damn, what they did to that show…
Yellowstone – gave up in season 4, won’t go back for John’s demise, bored with Beth now

Very few get better as they renew season after season.

Twin Peaks was meant to be 1 Season only – and it shows.

 

[TSJMajesty]

Very few get better as they renew season after season.

Yep.

Just watched Road House, the new one. I liked it. Crazy-good action sequences! Best yet.
Not much on story though, but no real surprise.

 

[Aelred]

Yep.

Just watched Road House, the new one. I liked it. Crazy-good action sequences! Best yet.
Not much on story though, but no real surprise.

I blame Battlestar Galactica in many ways for so many remakes, reboots, reimaginings and so forth, at least in TV.

C'mon, peoples! The original was a cheesy 70's TV show. They're still making/destroying Star Wars (now just terrible TV shows), Star Trek, and they just did Gladiator II, a Mad Max without Max, and that Joker thing, the "new" Snow White pending- wtf?!?

Stop remaking and destroying the past (my childhood and youth) and invent something new.

It's no wonder we yell at clouds!

 

[TSJMajesty]

Stop remaking and destroying the past (my childhood and youth) and invent something new.

Ehh, you know how it goes. If something sells, let's do it again and milk some more money out of it.

New Behringer Klon pedal
New Mesa <cough cough> Gibson Mk IIC+
Silver Majesty that sold out before I even heard about it.
Etc., etc.

 

[norminal]

Landman

 

[Jynx]

They did some really cool stuff in Roadhouse to make punches which I guarantee every is going to start copying.



Haven't watched myself because I can't stand that utter belled, McGregor. And this was before his rape trial. Glad to see he's been made persona non grata all over Ireland this week, murals painted over, products removed from stores, businesses boycotted, etc. Long overdue.

 

[mbenigni]

What was the point of The Irishman? I've watched it a couple of times now, (months apart) and I kinda think overall it was pretty lame.

And I have to agree with @State of Epicicity , at least I think it was you, who was saying how DeNiro's acting has gone downhill. In fact, I thought all 3 of em, him, Pesci, & Pacino kinda sucked. I mean that phone call to Hoffa's wife (or whomever it was, near the end, I really wasn't paying much attention by that time) where DeNiro is all toungue-tied and stuttering was atrocious.

Maybe not as much with Pesci, but their characters just don't seem all that different from other movies. Pacino's acting seemed quite similar to who he was in Heat, and even to maybe a lesser degree, but still a lot like his Colonel Slade.

Idk, maybe I need to put down the guitar while watching movies, and focus on one or the other.

You're not crazy. The Irishman sucked. Scorsese's insistence on working with the same talent he employed 6,000 years ago is always a liability, but in this film it crossed a line into the absurd. I have no idea why so much critical praise was heaped on. OK, it's Scorsese, it's "epic" (read: l-o-o-o-o-o-o-ng), it's pretty in the requisite "period piece" regards... and that's about it. Screenplay and acting are pretty tired IMO.

 

[TSJMajesty]

You're not crazy. The Irishman sucked. Scorsese's insistence on working with the same talent he employed 6,000 years ago is always a liability, but in this film it crossed a line into the absurd. I have no idea why so much critical praise was heaped on. OK, it's Scorsese, it's "epic" (read: l-o-o-o-o-o-o-ng), it's pretty in the requisite "period piece" regards... and that's about it. Screenplay and acting are pretty tired IMO.

There's way too much "trading on a name" kinda thing in the world. Like, just because something was great in the past, it's going to be forever great. And that's just not true.

Everything needs to be evaluated based on what it is today, not what it once was. Things change; Better ideas come along.

 

[mbenigni]

Everything needs to be evaluated based on what it is today, not what it once was. Things change; Better ideas come along.

I take your point but I wouldn't put it exactly this way. The Godfather was great then, and it will be great always. Likewise for Goodfellas, Carlito's Way, etc. etc. etc. New and good ideas ("better" or otherwise) notwithstanding.

But as for living, breathing human beings... no one can just carry on delivering 100% forever. In the case of actors, sooner or later you're casting dust. (This is especially painful to watch when you write them into scenes comprising their youths/ origin stories.)

 

[TSJMajesty]

I take your point but I wouldn't put it exactly this way. The Godfather was great then, and it will be great always.

No, of course. That's not what I meant. I meant, like because the GF was so great, they made 2 sequels, and even though 2 was also great, at some point it's not any longer, like with 3.

Iow, at some point you can't keep trading on a name, or even reputation, unless those things are still great. But many times they're not, and people don't notice it. If that makes sense.

Likewise for Goodfellas, Carlito's Way, etc. etc. etc. New and good ideas ("better" or otherwise) notwithstanding.

But as for living, breathing human beings... no one can just carry on delivering 100% forever. In the case of actors, sooner or later you're casting dust. (This is especially painful to watch when you write them into scenes comprising their youths/ origin stories.)

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

Streamed the first three episodes of Landman last night. Pretty good show....love Billy Bob Thornton's character in this.

We are ending our Sky subscription. It’s just so little content. But Landman looks really interesting.

I am glad if Yellowstone is over. It becomes a drag.

Had the same feeling about The Bear. Man that last season was so slowww

 

[norminal]

Had the same feeling about The Bear. Man that last season was so slowww

I refer to season 3 as season 2-1/2.