What’s going on with Marshall??

When i hear someone say 2 different amps, different PCB's, different layout, different transformers, one has 1/2 the components of the original.
When i hear folks after all that say "they sound exactly the same" that tells me for them their ears hear everything the same.
To that i say "sucks to be them."
 
Spaced Out Ace said:
Fair enough, but was Jim doing odd stuff like headphones, blutooth speakers, and killing his distribution without having adequate distribution setup to have a relatively seamless transition? What they have now is essentially a year or so without product (aside from the outsourced stuff). A few people have gotten something after waiting and backordering it, but for those who just want to order an amp, good luck finding something. Even their reissued pedal line was a bit of a joke as far as availability for a brand the likes of Marshall.
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The headphones thing doesn’t bother me much. I just don't buy them, but I'm not offended by them. I don't see anything wrong with diversifying their product line. I love Yamaha guitars and the company makes a whole lot of other products. Roland/Boss does the same thing, even Fender does that to some degree.A lotbof companies do this, in order to stay afloat. The gear market is incredibly small in the grand scheme of things.

The lack of current US distribution is concerning but I'm happy they terminated the previous distributor as they were flat out ripping people off charging $3.5k for a 2203x etc. But yes it's about time they figure out a proper replacement.

Overall, I think Marshall is doing ok as far as their current amp line goes. The classics (1959, 2203, 1987 etc) are still being made and they sound good. The 20w Studio line is cool as far as small amps go. The DSL line is good too. The Origins, I don't really like them. No question there.

But yes, they need to sort out US distribution. No point in "lowering the price" if you can't find the amps.
 


I suppose some dumbass is going to say John Sykes' Jose Marshalls sound "just like" a Hanoi DSL.
Welcome to the "pussification of amplification".
 
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Stone said:
Sykes is awesome :chef
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One of a kind. 100%
Studio Engineers called Sykes "one take John" as everything he ever recorded he had the reputation of doing in 1 take.
That saves a ton of production costs.
 
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6CA7-A said:


I suppose some dumbass is going to say John Sykes' Jose Marshalls sound "just like" a Hanoi DSL.
Welcome to the "pussification of amplification".
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Wasn't John using the Mesa Coliseum by this point?

GuitarBilly74 said:
The headphones thing doesn’t bother me much. I just don't buy them, but I'm not offended by them. I don't see anything wrong with diversifying their product line. I love Yamaha guitars and the company makes a whole lot of other products. Roland/Boss does the same thing, even Fender does that to some degree.A lotbof companies do this, in order to stay afloat. The gear market is incredibly small in the grand scheme of things.

The lack of current US distribution is concerning but I'm happy they terminated the previous distributor as they were flat out ripping people off charging $3.5k for a 2203x etc. But yes it's about time they figure out a proper replacement.

Overall, I think Marshall is doing ok as far as their current amp line goes. The classics (1959, 2203, 1987 etc) are still being made and they sound good. The 20w Studio line is cool as far as small amps go. The DSL line is good too. The Origins, I don't really like them. No question there.

But yes, they need to sort out US distribution. No point in "lowering the price" if you can't find the amps.
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I think it makes the brand look cheaper.

I agree that they were ripping off customers, but they look like they don't know what they are doing when they discontinue you a distribution deal, then struggle for a year to get and keep product in stores. I'm glad Europe has stock, but it'd be very concerning if they didn't.

The Studio line doesn't interest me much as I don't care for EL84 and 6V6 based amps usually. There are some exceptions, of course, but not something I seek out. If they can't make the classics sound right, that would be concerning just like not having stock in Europe would be concerning. The DSL seems cool, but would have to try one out to determine if it would appeal to me at all in terms of what I like Marshall wise.

I think I read that someon had their Marshall amp or cab on backorder for like 6 months. Pretty asinine, frankly, for a brand of Marshall's stature and lineage. You can get some headphones and blutooth speakers, though! Those ought to set the world on fire and have everyone talking about them!
 
Spaced Out Ace said:
I think it makes the brand look cheaper.
I agree that they were ripping off customers, but they look like they don't know what they are doing when they discontinue you a distribution deal, then struggle for a year to get and keep product in stores. I'm glad Europe has stock, but it'd be very concerning if they didn't.

The Studio line doesn't interest me much as I don't care for EL84 and 6V6 based amps usually. There are some exceptions, of course, but not something I seek out. If they can't make the classics sound right, that would be concerning just like not having stock in Europe would be concerning. The DSL seems cool, but would have to try one out to determine if it would appeal to me at all in terms of what I like Marshall wise.

I think I read that someon had their Marshall amp or cab on backorder for like 6 months. Pretty asinine, frankly, for a brand of Marshall's stature and lineage. You can get some headphones and blutooth speakers, though! Those ought to set the world on fire and have everyone talking about them!
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yeah I hear that but idk, if I'm looking into buying a Marshall, whether or not they're making headphones is not relevant to me.
But to be fair, 90% of the Marshalls I've bought over the years were used to begin with, so there's that.
 
6CA7-A said:


I suppose some dumbass is going to say John Sykes' Jose Marshalls sound "just like" a Hanoi DSL.
Welcome to the "pussification of amplification".
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Who said anything about Jose Marshalls? The JCM2000 and the DSL100H sound pretty much the same. And neither of them sound anything like a Jose Marshall.
 
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Actually out of the Studio series amps, the JTM interests me the most. Actual JTM45s measure closer to 30 watts than 45 do a 20 watt amp isn’t gonna sacrifice much. Plus I’ve always wanted a JTM style amp to round out my Marshall style amps. Of course, if I wanted to go high end because I can I’d hit up George Metropoulos for either a Super Plex 50 or one of his GPM-45s that has his new master circuit in it. As far as I’m concerned there’s a lot of quality builders that make great sounding Marshall style amps, but George’s are the ones that sound most like the originals.
 
greatmutah said:
Actually out of the Studio series amps, the JTM interests me the most. Actual JTM45s measure closer to 30 watts than 45 do a 20 watt amp isn’t gonna sacrifice much. Plus I’ve always wanted a JTM style amp to round out my Marshall style amps. Of course, if I wanted to go high end because I can I’d hit up George Metropoulos for either a Super Plex 50 or one of his GPM-45s that has his new master circuit in it. As far as I’m concerned there’s a lot of quality builders that make great sounding Marshall style amps, but George’s are the ones that sound most like the originals.
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Yeah the actual JTM45 is 30w so the 20w shouldn't be too far off.

I had the mini 800 and the mini plexi. I thought they were cool. The 20w 800 records REALLY well, I really liked using it in the studio. 800s are preamp based amps for the most part so I think they got it really close on the 20w, in a studio environment. I recorded some tracks with it and my 2203 and they were very close.

In the room/on stage, it's a compleyely different story and the 100w leaves the 20w in the dust quickly. But for studio work the 20w 800 is awesome. I guess that's why they called them "Studio series"

The mini plexi was cool too but my 1987x sounded better and fuller overall, even when recorded so I kept the 50w.


Metro amps are amazing. :love
 
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