What’s going on with Marshall??

[6CA7-A]

Also could be that their economy, and most of the rest of the world, still hasn't recovered as much as it has here in the States. Lots of other countries are still feeling the sting of higher inflation and lower GDP than us.

Speak for yourself. "Inflation" and high prices are in full swing in this corner of the USA. But once tariffs kick in will be smooth sailin. [pun]

 

[6CA7-A]

I agree. Luckily you don't have to worry about them going out of business anytime soon. They're doing very well and still topping the sales lists :)

"Marshall Amplification" as a company has sold 3 times the last 10 years what rock do you live under ?

 

[6CA7-A]

I was a lifelong Marshall guy, even bought a head + 4x12 when I was 16, haha. Worked all summer and saved for it.

Switched to Mesa in 2017 and never looked back. It's a bummer to see where Marshall is at these days.

Gibson owns Mesa now, you were saying ???

 

[6CA7-A]

Still cheaper than a Friedman or Soldano.

Nope not really.

 

[spawnofthesith]

I will take almost any Mesa pre or post Gibson over a Marshall, Friedman, or soldano

 

[paisleywookiee]

Nope not really.

BE-100 and Soldano SLO are $4000. Mark VII is $3550, Triple Crown 100 is $3100, Badlander 100 is $2500. So yeah, really.

 

[spawnofthesith]

They moved the DSL and others to Vietnam right after ole man Jim [RIP] passed but not before like a bunch of money grubbing cheese dicks.
It took Jim Marshalls kids less than 12 years to destroy the company that took Jim 70 years to make.

Could be a shitty money grab move, but I still stand by the statement of the Vietnam DSLs being better built and more reliable than the UK ones. I personally had to deal with one of those crappy UK DSL401s

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I personally had to deal with one of those crappy UK DSL401s

Hey just because they would set themselves on fire doesn't mean they were bad.

 

[dronerstone]

Could be a shitty money grab move, but I still stand by the statement of the Vietnam DSLs being better built and more reliable than the UK ones. I personally had to deal with one of those crappy UK DSL401s

I totally believe that. A buddy of mine has an Origin 50H (?) and I gotta say, that thing ain't bad at all - if you're looking for "vintage British" sounds.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Hey just because they would set themselves on fire doesn't mean they were bad.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I totally believe that. A buddy of mine has an Origin 50H (?) and I gotta say, that thing ain't bad at all - if you're looking for "vintage British" sounds.

I liked the origin I tried with a few pedals into it but there was very little gain to be had from the amp itself.

 

[dronerstone]

I liked the origin I tried with a few pedals into it but there was very little gain to be had from the amp itself.

That's true, it's anything but a high-gainer.

 

[6CA7-A]

BE-100 and Soldano SLO are $4000. Mark VII is $3550, Triple Crown 100 is $3100, Badlander 100 is $2500. So yeah, really.

Ive seen every Friedman in the line & SLO-100's for $3K. Cash money talks. Who tf buys retail, not me.

 

[6CA7-A]

Could be a shitty money grab move, but I still stand by the statement of the Vietnam DSLs being better built and more reliable than the UK ones. I personally had to deal with one of those crappy UK DSL401s

Everything on the VC Marshalls are on the cheap. Including the current flagship "hand wired" JCM-800's they have Vietnam trans instead of Dagnall for $4K GTFO --------------

I have one of the last Milton Keyenes Bletchley made DSL's its a damn fine amp and light years ahead of the Viet Cong.



We all have our opines don't we. Some say the Chinese made Les Pauls beat Gibson, i digress.

 

[6CA7-A]

Could be a shitty money grab move, but I still stand by the statement of the Vietnam DSLs being better built and more reliable than the UK ones. I personally had to deal with one of those crappy UK DSL401s

Never buy an EL-84 amp.

 

[6CA7-A]

I liked the origin I tried with a few pedals into it but there was very little gain to be had from the amp itself.

I got an O-20 on a trade. Couldn't get rid of it faster. Its the "Anti-Marshall".

 

[paisleywookiee]

Ive seen every Friedman in the line & SLO-100's for $3K. Cash money talks. Who tf buys retail, not me.

Oh Jesus dude. Yeah let’s talk about what price you can allegedly get amps for (which I don’t believe for a second).

 

[PLX]

Oh Jesus dude. Yeah let’s talk about what price you can allegedly get amps for (which I don’t believe for a second).

 

[6CA7-A]

 

[GuitarBilly74]

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Everything on the VC Marshalls are on the cheap. Including the current flagship "hand wired" JCM-800's they have Vietnam trans instead of Dagnall for $4K GTFO --------------

I have one of the last Milton Keyenes Bletchley made DSL's its a damn fine amp and light years ahead of the Viet Cong.



We all have our opines don't we. Some say the Chinese made Les Pauls beat Gibson, i digress.

I have the same exact amp (2009 MLB) as well as the Vietnamese DSL100H. They sound the same but Vietnamese is better made. Not opinion, it's factual:

- chassis mounted power tubes on the 100H (board mounted on the JCM2000)

- thicker, single PCB on the 100H (multiple, thinner PCBs connected by Molex cables on the 2000)

- Resonance pot on the 100H (all or nothing "Deep" switch on the JCM2000).

Even Dave Friedman commented on his podcast that the Vietnamese ones are better made.

As for tone:



I'd love to hear you sound better than this through any of your amps.

And the fact you refer to it as "vietcong" tells me everything about where your bias comes from.

Always putting your foot in your mouth Charveldan...