What’s going on with Marshall??

[paisleywookiee]

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People are po Bro, but once dem tariffs & tax cuts kick in we all on easy street.

Not voucing for any sellers. Enter at your own risk.
Funny thing about money ... you need it to buy things $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

And I can find used Mesas for way cheaper too, what’s your point?
It always cracks me up when someone says they can get something for way cheaper, but they’re talking about used. No shit Sherlock.

 

[6CA7-A]

Don't you have your "own forum" for your DSL of the day threads ? Why are you pestering folks here ?

Kick rocks punk or i shall taunt you a second time.

 

[6CA7-A]

And I can find used Mesas for way cheaper too, what’s your point?
It always cracks me up when someone says they can get something for way cheaper, but they’re talking about used. No shit Sherlock.

But you said they dont "exist". I sent you links they do. Nifty shit Meynard.

 

[paisleywookiee]

But you said they dont "exist". I sent you links they do. Nifty shit Meynard.

No, I said specifically “Still cheaper than a Friedman or Soldano.”

I’m talking new prices, not used prices you find on FB marketplace. My buddy sold his Mark VII combo for $2300. Doesn’t mean I’m going to start going around saying “I can get Mark VII’s for $2300 all day long”.

Anyone with a brain knows used is cheaper. That’s not what I was talking about. Unless you’re being incredibly obtuse, you knew that’s what I was referring to.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

Don't you have your "own forum" for your DSL of the day threads ? Why are you pestering folks here ?

Kick rocks punk or i shall taunt you a second time.

As usual, you got nothing.

Always the same trolling, dumb memes, prejudice and not a single clue about anything you run your mouth about. Not to mention you can barely play the guitar. Same old Dan.

 

[PLX]

As usual, you got nothing.

Always the same trolling, dumb memes, prejudice and not a single clue about anything you run your mouth about. Not to mention you can barely play the guitar. Same old Dan.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

I got an O-20 on a trade. Couldn't get rid of it faster. Its the "Anti-Marshall".

The Origin stuff sounds horrible. Absolutely dreadful sounding. Yeah, his kids are running the brand into the ground, burning the ashes, and pissing on the remnants.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

The Origin stuff sounds horrible. Absolutely dreadful sounding. Yeah, his kids are running the brand into the ground, burning the ashes, and pissing on the remnants.

I don't like the Origin amps either, but this kind of stuff is not new to Marshall. Before the Origins, it was the MA line, before that, the JCM600s and so on , all the way back to the "town and country" combos from the 70s. Usually their "flagship" amps are good but they always had a few duds in their production lines. I don't think that's a "new owner's" thing.

I love Marshall amps, they're my favorite but they were never really a "high end" manufacturer, even in their most classic years, there were always QC issues and inconsistencies.

 

[paisleywookiee]

The Origin series was a nice idea, but it’s just not well executed. Super bland amps.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

The Origin series was a nice idea, but it’s just not well executed. Super bland amps.

Some of the demos of them sound incredibly dreadful. I swear you can ear Jim tumbling around in his grave if you have them turned up loud enough and stop playing.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

I don't like the Origin amps either, but this kind of stuff is not new to Marshall. Before the Origins, it was the MA line, before that, the JCM600s and so on , all the way back to the "town and country" combos from the 70s. Usually their "flagship" amps are good but they always had a few duds in their production lines. I don't think that's a "new owner's" thing.

I love Marshall amps, they're my favorite but they were never really a "high end" manufacturer, even in their most classic years, there were always QC issues and inconsistencies.

Fair enough, but was Jim doing odd stuff like headphones, blutooth speakers, and killing his distribution without having adequate distribution setup to have a relatively seamless transition? What they have now is essentially a year or so without product (aside from the outsourced stuff). A few people have gotten something after waiting and backordering it, but for those who just want to order an amp, good luck finding something. Even their reissued pedal line was a bit of a joke as far as availability for a brand the likes of Marshall.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Some of the demos of them sound incredibly dreadful. I swear you can ear Jim tumbling around in his grave if you have them turned up loud enough and stop playing.

I got the 50 sounding okay-ish through a Mesa cab. But it’s not something I’d ultimately be happy with.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

"town and country" combos from the 70s

Club & Country?

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

I got the 50 sounding okay-ish through a Mesa cab. But it’s not something I’d ultimately be happy with.

Eh. I'd rather see both (20 and 50) set on fire.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Eh. I'd rather see both (20 and 50) set on fire.

Well, I was trying to be glass half-full.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Club & Country?

I think (IIRC) it was their shot at making something more Fendery? And yes I realize technically it’s all descended from Fender, but in this case more clean and American amp-sounding.

 

[6CA7-A]

When i hear someone say 2 different amps, different PCB's, different layout, different transformers, one has 1/2 the components of the original.
When i hear folks after all that say "they sound exactly the same" that tells me for them their ears hear everything the same.
To that i say "sucks to be them."

 

[6CA7-A]

The Origin stuff sounds horrible. Absolutely dreadful sounding. Yeah, his kids are running the brand into the ground, burning the ashes, and pissing on the remnants.

The more you turn them up, the more nothing happens LOL.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

Fair enough, but was Jim doing odd stuff like headphones, blutooth speakers, and killing his distribution without having adequate distribution setup to have a relatively seamless transition? What they have now is essentially a year or so without product (aside from the outsourced stuff). A few people have gotten something after waiting and backordering it, but for those who just want to order an amp, good luck finding something. Even their reissued pedal line was a bit of a joke as far as availability for a brand the likes of Marshall.

The headphones thing doesn’t bother me much. I just don't buy them, but I'm not offended by them. I don't see anything wrong with diversifying their product line. I love Yamaha guitars and the company makes a whole lot of other products. Roland/Boss does the same thing, even Fender does that to some degree.A lotbof companies do this, in order to stay afloat. The gear market is incredibly small in the grand scheme of things.

The lack of current US distribution is concerning but I'm happy they terminated the previous distributor as they were flat out ripping people off charging $3.5k for a 2203x etc. But yes it's about time they figure out a proper replacement.

Overall, I think Marshall is doing ok as far as their current amp line goes. The classics (1959, 2203, 1987 etc) are still being made and they sound good. The 20w Studio line is cool as far as small amps go. The DSL line is good too. The Origins, I don't really like them. No question there.

But yes, they need to sort out US distribution. No point in "lowering the price" if you can't find the amps.

 

[6CA7-A]

I suppose some dumbass is going to say John Sykes' Jose Marshalls sound "just like" a Hanoi DSL.
Welcome to the "pussification of amplification".