What’s going on with Marshall??

[metropolis_4]

Too many guitarists sleep on Marshall for clean to clean-ish tones

 

[6CA7-A]

Ive played single channel JMP's for 40+ yrs.
IDK anyone that ever bought a Marshall for clean.
Maybe they do now IDK.

 

[metropolis_4]

Ive played single channel JMP's for 40+ yrs.
IDK anyone that ever bought a Marshall for clean.
Maybe they do now IDK.

Like I said, too many guitarists sleep on them for cleans. They’re killer amps for clean tones

 

[greatmutah]

Like I said, too many guitarists sleep on them for cleans. They’re killer amps for clean tones

My Metro has amazing cleans. Roll the guitar volume back a bit and you get the there. Still a little hair in them depending on where the gain’s set and what mode it’s in (66 mode gives up the best clean sounds). I handled cleans with that amp live by using my guitar as the two channels. Neck pickup volume set lower to clean up. Bridge pickup running hot and dirty. If I needed more, step on the mode switch to go up to the higher gain mode. Easy.

Also the DSL100s have great cleans in their own right.

 

[6CA7-A]

Like I said, too many guitarists sleep on them for cleans. They’re killer amps for clean tones

Andy Sommers used 1987 model JMP's for cleanish Police tones.

 

[Frodebro]

Always putting your foot in your mouth Charveldan...

 

[6CA7-A]

As usual, you got nothing.

Always the same trolling, dumb memes, prejudice and not a single clue about anything you run your mouth about. Not to mention you can barely play the guitar. Same old Dan.

Perhaps i was cranky after being up 18 hrs for work. You usually have solid talking points and are a great player my apoligies. But im still not sold on UK vs VN manufacturing. I have to take the Asian stuff one at a time. Some good, some not.
I would have loved a VN Marshall in 1972 but all we had was the real thing which wasn't abtainable due to $$$.

 

[HomespunEffects]

I got an O-20 on a trade. Couldn't get rid of it faster. Its the "Anti-Marshall".

Agree. No one will ever convince me the Origin series sounds like a plexi.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

It's the new wagon queen family truckster line from Marshall Amplification.

You think you hate it now, but wait until you play it.

 

[Alex Kenivel]

I don't think ive ever played a Plexi, 800, or any other waxing nostalgic amps so I am of no authority to argue about however anything sounds comparatively.
There is an Origin head, maybe the 50w, at my local GC. Not sure if it's the same one that has been there for a few years but I enjoy plugging into it, cranking all of the EQ knobs and getting a lovely blown-out squishy sound that has this addicting sag. I've been able to get this sound from modeling or amps at excessive dBs but never from a tube amp at reasonable volume.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I don't think ive ever played a Plexi, 800, or any other waxing nostalgic amps so I am of no authority to argue about however anything sounds comparatively.
There is an Origin head, maybe the 50w, at my local GC. Not sure if it's the same one that has been there for a few years but I enjoy plugging into it, cranking all of the EQ knobs and getting a lovely blown-out squishy sound that has this addicting sag. I've been able to get this sound from modeling or amps at excessive dBs but never from a tube amp at reasonable volume.

I once got kicked out of a Sam Ash for playing an 800 loud enough for it to sound decent. How else was I going to know if I liked it?

 

[paisleywookiee]

I once got kicked out of a Sam Ash for playing an 800 loud enough for it to sound decent. How else was I going to know if I liked it?

I mean, good etiquette would be to just ask if you can wind it up. But any decent shop isn't going to mind, unless it's like an hour.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

Perhaps i was cranky after being up 18 hrs for work. You usually have solid talking points and are a great player my apoligies. But im still not sold on UK vs VN manufacturing. I have to take the Asian stuff one at a time. Some good, some not.
I would have loved a VN Marshall in 1972 but all we had was the real thing which wasn't abtainable due to $$$.

Thank you. Wouldnt it be much easier if we had this conversation right from the start?
And yeah, I started to play in the early 80s and affordable gear was awful back then and the real deal was expensive. So I think it's cool that there are so many affordable options these days that are gig worth.
But I do agree with you you have to look at it on a case by case basis, some stuff is good and some isn’t.

 

[PLX]

Thank you. Wouldnt it be much easier if we had this conversation right from the start?
And yeah, I started to play in the early 80s and affordable gear was awful back then and the real deal was expensive. So I think it's cool that there are so many affordable options these days that are gig worth.
But I do agree with you you have to look at it on a case by case basis, some stuff is good and some isn’t.

It all sounds the same recorded wif a cell phone, Billy.

 

[Frodebro]

Agree. No one will ever convince me the Origin series sounds like a plexi.

I don’t think that was the intention, they lean much more toward the JTM as far as gain is concerned. I have both the 20 and 50 combos, they’re great platforms for going down the dirt pedal rabbit hole.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

It all sounds the same recorded wif a cell phone, Billy.

yeah I plead guilty as charged lol

 

[paisleywookiee]

It all sounds the same recorded wif a cell phone, Billy.

 

[6CA7-A]

Thank you. Wouldnt it be much easier if we had this conversation right from the start?
And yeah, I started to play in the early 80s and affordable gear was awful back then and the real deal was expensive. So I think it's cool that there are so many affordable options these days that are gig worth.
But I do agree with you you have to look at it on a case by case basis, some stuff is good and some isn’t.

Yes sir on all counts. The gear possibilites these days are endless. Its staggering coming from vinyl LP, 8-track tape til now.
There was Gibson / Fender & everything else when i started and the everything else wasn't really playable.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I mean, good etiquette would be to just ask if you can wind it up. But any decent shop isn't going to mind, unless it's like an hour.

I did ask. And it wasn’t even loud enough to warrant taking it into the loud room nor was there anyone else in the store. But some salespeople just don’t understand.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

Yes sir on all counts. The gear possibilites these days are endless. Its staggering coming from vinyl LP, 8-track tape til now.
There was Gibson / Fender & everything else when i started and the everything else wasn't really playable.

Yep. In the 80s/99s the import stuff was indeed trash but that changed over the years, which is a good thing. These days, I look at gear based on how it sounds and ease of use, not where it's made.

But with that said, the top stuff for me is still the classics. My favorite amp is my '77 NMV 100w JMP. I use it with a Fryette Power Station and it sounds great. I don't think the DSLs can touch a wound up JMP.

But it's a hard rig to gig with, specially in my situation where we usually share the night with 3-4 other bands and barely get a line check, let alone a soundcheck.
The DSLs are much more practical for these gigs and they're good amps. So many players use them as their backlines.

But if I was in a position where I had a crew or at least proper time to dial in the rig, the JMP would be my rig of choice for sure.