The "Going To An Audition" Thread

[Warmart]

Yayyyyyyyyy!

 

[la szum]

Well, I went.

 

[la szum]

Yayyyyyyyyy!

Not quite at that point yet. For me. A few second date red flags popped up. Now I just need to determine
how much value the sex holds for me, in relation to the other things I would have to deal with.

 

[TSJMajesty]

If I have to "determine", I've determined. Iow, just the thoughts of whether the bs outweighs the fun, is enough for me to decide it will.

 

[la szum]

Perhaps?

You seem a lot more persnickety than I am, though.

I know of no ideal/perfect scenario. Everything in life -- from my view --- is loaded with pluses
and minuses. I get a payoff, but is it worth the up front costs, or ongoing maintenance.

Not to mention I am too old to be naive and idealistic and blot out potential obstacles just because I
want something to work out.

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[TSJMajesty]

Perhaps?

You seem a lot more persnickety than I am, though.

No argument there.

I know of no ideal/perfect scenario. Everything in life -- from my view --- is loaded with pluses
and minuses. I get a payoff, but is it worth the up front costs, or ongoing maintenance.

Not to mention I am too old to be naive and idealistic and blot out potential obstacles just because I
want something to work out.

Probably why I'm most likely done with bands, and you're not. I have a low tolerance for putting in all that effort, then having it fall apart because of dumb shit. And I absolutely can't stand lack of communication.

Otoh, if it were just to get together with others to have "poker night", with no expectations (other than if we say we're getting together at a certain time/day, we all show up), that's something I'd still like to do.

Maybe it comes from years of running a business dealing with employees.

 

[la szum]

Well, maybe I am playing for/auditioning for someone like you.

The other Dave is an HVAC contractor and owns his own business, and on night 2
some of his more stern and demanding, "I am the boss, and this is what we are
going to do," ways came out.

That is not what was pitched to me from the CL ad or night 1. Now the real Dave
comes out.

He's cool. Has a lot of resources. Can sing his ass off. Does not mind volume as a
singer..... but it is clear he is running the show. I am not cool with NOT having any
say on songs or direction. And I don't want to learn cheese ass songs and gig, because
that is what people "want to hear." Fuck people!!

Before we left he said, "Going forward we need to stick to the list." He said that because
we were having fun just exploring different tunes and going off on tangents. Songs not
on the list.

Played Ramble On, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Firewoman,
Separate Ways, Far Behind, Holiday, Apartment (Barenaked Ladies), Are U Gonna Go My Way,
and a few others I am not recalling right now. It was fun. A lot of fun. Pounding a list is not.
Never was. Never will be.

So yeah, "Fuck the list, too!"

 

[la szum]

That’s what these are for…

Had Nachos when I got home.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Well, maybe I am playing for/auditioning for someone like you.

The other Dave is an HVAC contractor and owns his own business, and on night 2
some of his more stern and demanding, "I am the boss, and this is what we are
going to do," ways came out.

That is not what was pitched to me from the CL ad or night 1. Now the real Dave
comes out.

He's cool. Has a lot of resources. Can sing his ass off. Does not mind volume as a
singer..... but it is clear he is running the show. I am not cool with NOT having any
say on songs or direction. And I don't want to learn cheese ass songs and gig, because
that is what people "want to hear." Fuck people!!

Before we left he said, "Going forward we need to stick to the list." He said that because
we were having fun just exploring different tunes and going off on tangents. Songs not
on the list.

Played Ramble On, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Firewoman,
Separate Ways, Far Behind, Holiday, Apartment (Barenaked Ladies), Are U Gonna Go My Way,
and a few others I am not recalling right now. It was fun. A lot of fun. Pounding a list is not.
Never was. Never will be.

So yeah, "Fuck the list, too!"

People want to hear those songs?


Dig the Zepplin but a rowdy crowd generally won't jive with those picks. The Journey song is cool but Dont Stop Believin' (unfortunately) would trounce it.

 

[TSJMajesty]

Well, maybe I am playing for/auditioning for someone like you.

Haha.

The other Dave is an HVAC contractor and owns his own business, and on night 2
some of his more stern and demanding, "I am the boss, and this is what we are
going to do," ways came out.

Hmm, that almost seems like an oxymoron. Like, after being the boss all day, band night should be more chill. Oh wait, my buddy Rob is the same way-dictatorial at work, and play.

That is not what was pitched to me from the CL ad or night 1. Now the real Dave
comes out.

He's cool. Has a lot of resources. Can sing his ass off. Does not mind volume as a
singer..... but it is clear he is running the show. I am not cool with NOT having any
say on songs or direction. And I don't want to learn cheese ass songs and gig, because
that is what people "want to hear." Fuck people!!

NO DOUBT!! I always seem to get into debates with band members along these lines"
"We gotta do what the crowd wants to hear, or we won't get gigs."
"If It's not fun for me, first, then I'm just not interested. Plus, I believe you can have a band that does fun & cool songs that haven't been done to death, and not only have audiences dig what you're doing, but say, "Oh wow! I haven't heard that song in SO long, and never heard a band cover it.""

Before we left he said, "Going forward we need to stick to the list." He said that because
we were having fun just exploring different tunes and going off on tangents. Songs not
on the list.

Red flag.

Played Ramble On, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Firewoman,
Separate Ways, Far Behind, Holiday, Apartment (Barenaked Ladies), Are U Gonna Go My Way,
and a few others I am not recalling right now. It was fun. A lot of fun. Pounding a list is not.
Never was. Never will be.

So yeah, "Fuck the list, too!"

Love it! Well if he can sing those, maybe it would make up for a few "flakes." Heck, who am I kidding? That would go a long way towards dealing with some frustrations.

But it would concern me that maybe he knows that, and would use it in a way that wouldn't feel fair...? Not sure.

Many ways to look at it.

 

[la szum]

People want to hear those songs?


Dig the Zepplin but a rowdy crowd generally won't jive with those picks. The Journey song is cool but Dont Stop Believin' (unfortunately) would trounce it.

Haha! I do. I am in this for me. Highly selfish!

I have pounded that beat of crowd-happy songs for almost 2 decades now and am burnt on it.
I used to be "Let's pick and play what works best for juiced up John and Janet." Not going to do
it anymore, especially with lugging gear and the increasing anxiety of late-night driving for
this old fart. And maybe for a couple of hundred dollars 2x a month. Yuk! No thanks. I know what that
feels like and how it all goes down. No surprises there.

For me, I need new songs (some originals, too) and new experiences (at least some of the time!) or I am not in.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Haha! I do. I am in this for me. Highly selfish!

I have pounded that beat of crowd-happy songs for almost 2 decades now and am burnt on it.
I used to be "Let's pick and play what works best for juiced up John and Janet." Not going to do
it anymore, especially with lugging gear and the increasing anxiety of late-night driving for
this old fart. And maybe for a couple of hundred dollars 2x a month. Yuk! No thanks. I know what that
feels like and how it all goes down. No surprises there.

For me, I need new songs (some originals, too) and new experiences (at least some of the time!) or I am not in.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I was thinking other dude was saying "WEER PLAYING CANDULBOX OR IM OUT" kind of thing. To which I am like, "well; who are you to be the boss of something when you can't even show up for two weeks in a row for? other than dude that owns the garage?"

 

[la szum]

Maybe I'll snap some pics of "The List," and create a poll, and then I will do whatever the Forum says I should.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Maybe I'll snap some pics of "The List," and create a poll, and then I will do whatever the Forum says I should.

If you can get everyone involved on the same page and happy; that is the biggest thing. I guess I would say biggest red flag is dude saying stick to the list. Perfectly good if you are allowed to contribute to the list and your goals align. If not, though; boo on him.

 

[la szum]

He seems more itching to gig, and sees sticking to the list as the fastest route to making that happen.

This is a different tact than a month ago when I was there when it was "just have fun" and "let's pick
some cool tunes" and "we want to work on original material, too."

Not sure what changed, because the live rock music scene here is utter shit. Acoustic duos for days!

Just not sure I want to put in the work to hone "the list" when gigging that kind of material ASAP
was not what I bargained for.

So lots of this in my head until next week.

 

[la szum]

But it would concern me that maybe he knows that, and would use it in a way that wouldn't feel fair...? Not sure.

Many ways to look at it.

Precisely! A guy with range you don't find maybe ever. Loves volume and has a killer PA with
everything mic'd up all the time. Has a vocation and is solid and has resources. About the
same age, so we like a lot of the same music. Lots of plusses.

But the damn list and wanting to "play what the crowd digs"---and me having ZERO say in
even one song right out of the gate is a BIG minus. I am old and secure enough in life to
NOT be someone's bitch.

 

[JiveTurkey]

He seems more itching to gig, and sees sticking to the list as the fastest route to making that happen.

This is a different tact than a month ago when I was there when it was "just have fun" and "let's pick
some cool tunes" and "we want to work on original material, too."

Not sure what changed, because the live rock music scene here is utter shit. Acoustic duos for days!

Just not sure I want to put in the work to hone "the list" when gigging that kind of material ASAP
was not what I bargained for.

So lots of this in my head until next week.

This is a tough spot to be in. That original metal band (that turned into "Hey people will LOVE this Keel cover!" ) which also got shoehorned in with "Hey let's do this simple af metal tune to see if we gel I mean let's add Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner and wonder why 1 hour and a half practice (76 minutes of which is a smoke "break" for the drummer) every other week is going absolutely nowhere 4 months later was it's own version of this.

Dude probably sees you can play and now is all about forcing that first gig. Which if everyone isn't on board with the songs or direction is a waste of time. Other than making you want to start a new band doing only what you want

 

[la szum]

Thanks for letting me think out loud guys. Sorry if it is a bit self-indulgent.


This really helps me process this.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Band dynamics and problem solving are sometimes my jam