The best Friedman amp...

[GuitarJon]

Ironic given Dave's professed love for all things "Marshall."

Dark, smooth, and bloated. Everything I don't want or need in a "Marshall."

I think once you play one you'll find that it doesn't have to sound dark at all. Mooooore than enough sizzle on tap if you want it.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

On clean headroom I think the Deluxe can get the power amp burning while keeping the system volume low? I remember that system volume being the best master volume I've ever used.

Nah, it’s all happening in the preamp. System master is basically just an fx return level, like another master volume after the main one. Recto’s have something similar, same with Peavey XXX. you can get killer tones at nice levels with them.

 

[Eagle]

TBH get a JVM and dial it with your ears instead of your eyes. There are two mint used ones near me for £600.

 

[GuitarJon]

TBH get a JVM and dial it with your ears instead of your eyes. There are two mint used ones near me for £600.

Who dials in amps with their eyes? The JVM has plenty of knobs to look at

 

[CarlF]

Ironic given Dave's professed love for all things "Marshall."

Dark, smooth, and bloated. Everything I don't want or need in a "Marshall."

I didn't hear that at all. Maybe you should Q Tip your ears.

 

[GuitarJon]

I didn't hear that at all. Maybe you should Q Tip your ears.

In the raw playthrough/dialing in section you can hear how much brightness there is on tap and it's way more than anybody would ever need! At least these controls have a lot of range, that's not something that can be said about a lot of Marshalls.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

i have heard that polite description a lot with BEs. why on earth would you want a polite marshall lololololol especially for several times the price of a marshall

it’s a forum myth/exaggeration for the most part. Plexi is a one trick pony, the BE is way more versatile.

 

[Eagle]

Who dials in amps with their eyes? The JVM has plenty of knobs to look at

Most people set everything they own like this.

 

[Eagle]

it’s a forum myth/exaggeration for the most part. Plexi is a one trick pony, the BE is way more versatile.

BE is great but it doesn’t cut through like a Marshall live . It does have a softer attack that makes it feel more forgiving. At home I would take the BE but live the Marshall.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

BE is great but it doesn’t cut through like a Marshall live . It does have a softer attack that makes it feel more forgiving. At home I would take the BE but live the Marshall.

It’s totally moot to me. Aside from the fact there are at least 5 different super lead circuit variations, and several BE’s (as well as the different modes and settings), one isn’t a replacement for another.

For 95% of us, using a 100W Super Lead live (without mods or some kind of power soak) is at best inconvenient and at worst a jerk move. It’s just not useful in any way to be THAT loud. At the lowest possible settings on mine, it’s still instant pain levels of volume. Want to use it with Greenbacks? That means you have to pair it with a full stack of cabs. 100W SL is fun in the studio under certain conditions but it’s so impractical. I wouldn’t really feel comfortable taking 50 year old amps out and about either, they stay in the studio. As soon as you start modding it or doing stuff to make it quieter, it becomes something else and you’re just picking compromises at that point.

 

[Eagle]

It’s totally moot to me. Aside from the fact there are at least 5 different super lead circuit variations, and several BE’s (as well as the different modes and settings), one isn’t a replacement for another.

For 95% of us, using a 100W Super Lead live (without mods or some kind of power soak) is at best inconvenient and at worst a jerk move. It’s just not useful in any way to be THAT loud. At the lowest possible settings on mine, it’s still instant pain levels of volume. Want to use it with Greenbacks? That means you have to pair it with a full stack of cabs. 100W SL is fun in the studio under certain conditions but it’s so impractical. I wouldn’t really feel comfortable taking 50 year old amps out and about either, they stay in the studio. As soon as you start modding it or doing stuff to make it quieter, it becomes something else and you’re just picking compromises at that point.

I used to gig 1959s on full but I realise you can’t really do that anymore. If I was gigging tomorrow I would probably use a JVM or my VH4 , X88ir /VHT over the BE.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I opened this thread expecting it to be about the Dirty Shirley.

 

[metropolis_4]

The best Friedman is the one you sell to buy a Marshall

 

[Sirloin]

It doesn't sound "polite" to me at all. It's more fun to play than a lot of Marshalls although or course that's subjective.

It definitely has more emphasis on the lower mids than a Marshall. Kinda like a Mesa.

 

[ejecta]

Not been the biggest fan of most of Dave’s amps but the new Plex I played was finally one that I thought I could gel with. In fact it’s one of the main captures I use on the Quad Cortex now.

All the other models he has out just aren’t my thing.

 

[ejecta]

The best Friedman is the one you sell to buy a Marshall

Or many other “Marshall” knockoff’s for me. I don’t care for how he makes them more on the darker/smooth side and more compression than a Marshall. He says his amps sound just like his favorite 50 watt plexi. IMHO if his original sounds like that then that wouldn’t be a Marshall I’d be interested in.

 

[GTR37]

It definitely has more emphasis on the lower mids than a Marshall. Kinda like a Mesa.

Like a Bogner basically is a modern take on a JMP it got more low mids and saturation like a Mesa but still the core topology is Marshall

 

[laxu]

I picked the Bogner Goldfinger 45 SL over the Friedman BE-50 Deluxe because the Bogner had a more old school sound, a more gradual master volume and it was a good chunk cheaper.

I do like the BE and GuitarJon got some great tones out of it in his video, but it's still not my favorite Marshall style amp.

 

[Eagle]

A friend of mine who is a world class blues player has the BE 50 and he is not normally a Marshall guy.

 

[maguchi]

fight me!

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