JiveTurkey
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SoOOoN (Neural DSP Nano Cortex)
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Fair enough. We agree to disagree in the "no brainer" unit. Well, actually don't. I don't think the NC is a no brainer at all. But I think the Dimehead is a no-go (mainly due to NAM cons, less due to hardware itself... Which I find pretty good in some regards, and horrible in others).
paisleywookiee
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When NAM or ToneX can accurately capture an amp easily, with proper gain measuring, and as simple as the QC or Kemper, then I'll take it more seriously. I've got no desire to pay Obnoxious Hawaiian Shirt Guy or any other person for packs of captures.INFINITY BAZILLION %%%%%%%%%
yeky83
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Several comments saying it should've been a plugin-player box... that would've been cool too actually, and it could've driven plugin sales and all...
@Dom Mcsweeney - please quote posts
@Sedaxel - please quote posts less
How big's the Dimehead NAM Pedal?
Lysander
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100%. Then again, NDSP has been promising plugins in hardware for years, and so far they support like four of them.
Mongillo19
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I wonder how it would have been perceived if
1) plugins were all available on the QC
2) they didn't make those dumb videos that everyone seemed annoyed with
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Achilles
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At the end of the day when it comes time to just play those are all just weeds!
Just jamming is pretty much this box's thing as far as I can tell so far.
Set up your favorite amp at its best setting and then shoot a capture. Adjust GBMT to taste and done.
Or grab one of the hundreds of great captures already out there.
You want to get under the hood with models you gotta buy a different $550 box.
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nicolasrivera
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yes, no body uses that.
paisleywookiee
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Duel stereo amps? Or just dual amps? The the former sounds like it’d be a bit unmanageable.
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I was wondering how you'd adjust patch levels, so I looked through the manual. Turns out you need to press-hold the capture knob for two seconds to change the level of the capture (then save and exit). The level knob defaults to being your master output level.
I find this to be a possibly pretty annoying design flaw. IMO both patch and output level should rather be available directly, especially as the parameters are hardwired anyway (unlike on, say, the HX Stomp, which is offering various ways to adjust your patch levels).
On a positive note, I also stumbled over this:
I'd say that's the best you can get out of the stupid combination of LED rings and standard pots. It obviously remains a stupid combination nonetheless. And it's getting even weirder, as they're obviously aware of the related issues (hence allowing the behaviour to be switched via the app) - so why not adress things the real way, as in using endless encoders?
And while I was in the manual, I was looking up the expression pedal options. Another at least somewhat positive thing as you can a) control multiple parameters at once and b) set the controlled range. Yeah, pretty much bog standard on most newer devices, still, as everything else seems to be implemented rather rudimentary, I didn't exactly expect it. With a little bit of fooling around, you should be able to turn a single patch into at least two pretty different sounds by the flick of a switch (or seamlessly blend between them with a pedal), such as a bone dry rhythm tone and a wet lead sound.
Also, the FX, while limited, seem to sound quite decent. Delay lacks a tap tempo option, though, IMO that's pretty bad (but it might've needed support for dual external switches, which it hasn't - IMO another downside).
What I'm really wondering about is whether they will deliver an update allowing you to use, say, an overdrive instead of the transpose FX in slot #2. IMO that'd make a whole lot of sense and should be easily doable in terms of CPU-usage.
Oh, one more thing I noticed in their deep dive video is that, while switching seems to be gapless indeed, reverb/delay trails don't seem to happen.
Guess that is as far as I want to explore this thing. Some positive bits but defenitely not enough to make me even think about grabbing one.
I find this to be a possibly pretty annoying design flaw. IMO both patch and output level should rather be available directly, especially as the parameters are hardwired anyway (unlike on, say, the HX Stomp, which is offering various ways to adjust your patch levels).
On a positive note, I also stumbled over this:
I'd say that's the best you can get out of the stupid combination of LED rings and standard pots. It obviously remains a stupid combination nonetheless. And it's getting even weirder, as they're obviously aware of the related issues (hence allowing the behaviour to be switched via the app) - so why not adress things the real way, as in using endless encoders?
And while I was in the manual, I was looking up the expression pedal options. Another at least somewhat positive thing as you can a) control multiple parameters at once and b) set the controlled range. Yeah, pretty much bog standard on most newer devices, still, as everything else seems to be implemented rather rudimentary, I didn't exactly expect it. With a little bit of fooling around, you should be able to turn a single patch into at least two pretty different sounds by the flick of a switch (or seamlessly blend between them with a pedal), such as a bone dry rhythm tone and a wet lead sound.
Also, the FX, while limited, seem to sound quite decent. Delay lacks a tap tempo option, though, IMO that's pretty bad (but it might've needed support for dual external switches, which it hasn't - IMO another downside).
What I'm really wondering about is whether they will deliver an update allowing you to use, say, an overdrive instead of the transpose FX in slot #2. IMO that'd make a whole lot of sense and should be easily doable in terms of CPU-usage.
Oh, one more thing I noticed in their deep dive video is that, while switching seems to be gapless indeed, reverb/delay trails don't seem to happen.
Guess that is as far as I want to explore this thing. Some positive bits but defenitely not enough to make me even think about grabbing one.
Sascha Franck
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Wait, I thought you could load all the plugins onto the QC? My bass player whos considering a QC was wanting to load the plini archetype on if he got one
Dom Mcsweeney
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"soon"
Mongillo19
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You can load plini and Gojira at the moment but that's it
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