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For the “ewww, captures only” people, is their modeling THAT good, or are you just complaining?

It's in line of what you expect from all the major players in the market these days - i ran models almost exclusively when i had a QC.

I guess most were expecting a shrunk-down QC, and got a single capture player instead.
 
I am fairly serious on that yeah, there are plenty of things about the Dimehead NAM Player that you can't do with the NDSP NC.
I don't mean so say that the NDSP NC is a bad choice, I'd probably prefer it to a Tonex, but, the Dimehead is more flexible than either Tonex / NDSP NC.
Really?

Maybe my view gives more weight to these aspects:

1) on board capturing. This means every single capture you load in it has the correct input gain... Apart from being faster and easier to capture your on gear. This is the main deal breaker for any NAM player IMO: I would just use it for my own profiles, while the QC, NC or Kemper guarantees every profile is well setup.

2) related to the previous: availability of thousands of correctly gained captures.

3) USB powered.

4) audio interface.

5) 600 mA.

6) even when they are too few, it still has the edge on effects (transpose is a great tool).

7) knobs and switches are "useable".

8) even when NDSP has a bad history in developing updates, they've been delivering lately. It makes me think they'll be updating this thing, adding more effects and whatnot, and they have the know how of one of the top dogs in effects, plugins, etc.

For me, the only disadvantage is the supposed difference in captures accuracy. Yet, that's still too subjective, despite of null tests that, undeniably being interesting and significant, I don't absolutely see as be-all-end-all proof of capturing quality.

But of course, this is just me.
 
Tim once he buys something....

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huh?
My point is every demo i have heard sounds vg and while its limited what it comes with seems pretty varried and if you can replace any of the 7 preset slots with diff ones downloaded from the cloud or make your own and put in you can really customize it to your own thing and its a good pricepoint.

My tones i use are more clean to breakup tones/crunch but not really the chug metal stuff. I think vh is the heaviest i would use but that ac30 breakup depending on pick attack is my go to..same with trainwreck/fender amps..And i like ambient effects so those can be put in as well i think...aia mean i dont gig so using it in a band isnt where my needs are. So its pretty much just a playback unit from whatever you put in it but it seems the effects can still be manipulated like on any modeler
 
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There are definitely some good things that both can do.
Dimehead can't do on board capturing, and it doesn't have an audio interface and a few other things I'm sure.

Dimehead:
1. It can load 2 x NAM models in series eg. drive or fuzz > amp
2. 500ma
3. Has an fx loop
4. Run dual simultaneous outputs (xlr DI Out with cab on + a line out that can be tapped before the cab section, after, or from anywhere in the chain eg. just a drive, or whatever you like).
5. Has a tuner
6. Load any Reverb Impulse of upto 60 seconds in length - this is massively useful.
7. Has a multi mode display, including a live mode that shows a big preset name.
8. (probably) better latency
9. Similarly, great updates, and more expected.
10. Massive community online
11. Cross platform (models can be loaded in a pedal, a daw, a mobile phone, whatever...)
12. NAM Training is arguably better, and more flexible.

I could list more, but it's pretty much easy to say (for me) that it's a no brainer and I'd choose the NAM / Dimehead combo.
Maybe not if I wasn't so familiar with it all - but only because I'd maybe not have heard of it, or not know enough about it due to the lack of youtubers promoting it. In that case, I'd probably just go with a Helix, because it's even more flexible.
 
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