SoOOoN (Neural DSP Nano Cortex)

[Orvillain]

Reddit needs moar pickles

Well they've got plenty of dils !!

 

[synthpenguin]

I should clarify that it was straight up DI in my use. All cabs/IRs off and the signal straight into a guitar cab.

That’s helpful too, since that’s mainly how I run my HX Stomp when not using headphones (Stomp with no cabs > power amp > guitar cab), and so I’d run the Tonex (or this or the Friedman) the same way.

 

[Mongillo19]

I enjoy bashing NDSP shenanigans as much as anyone else, but i'm legit surprised by some of the Nano Cortex backlash i've been reading online.

Wow there truly isn't one positive comment lol

 

[Sascha Franck]

most of the complaints about the NC are features that are already available on the Dimehead.

Oh really? Like the nice endless encoders?

 

[texhex]

Do I have this right that the only way to turn effects on or off with a foot switch is by creating different PRESETS and then changing to that Preset?

i.e. Preset 1A has Delay on, Preset 1B has Delay off. Only way to turn Delay on or off is to toggle Presets. Then you are supposed to know which effects are on or off via these tiny ass lights?

The MIDI implementation appears that it can only change Presets, not effects.

There is no way to turn effects on or off via a foot switch unless you change Presets?

 

[Sascha Franck]

i am going for it

Because of the stereo FX loop?

 

[Achilles]

Do I have this right that the only way to turn effects on or off with a foot switch is by creating different PRESETS and then changing to that Preset?

That's what I heard in one vid. These are all 24 hours rush impressions to get something on air.
Hopefully better details flesh out soon.



And sexy AF imo. Desktop unit all the way.

Just realized I sold my QC well before they implemented an editor.
That's gonna make exploring the Nano even more fun!

 

[paisleywookiee]

Nice to see the price is similar to a Dimehead NAM Player, but then the Dimehead NAM player seems to be the better option as it's more flexible. From reading all of the feedback/comments, most of the complaints about the NC are features that are already available on the Dimehead.
It's a great time to be alive to witness all the latest emerging technologies, and amazing to know NAM is part of this, along side all the products that are still just as competitive, but without capture tech.

Does the Dimehead have capture built-in?

 

[Sascha Franck]

There is no way to turn effects on or off via a foot switch unless you change Presets?

Come on, it's a feature. Editing single presets is for pussies. Should you want less gain on your driven sound, you will now have to edit TWO presets instead of one, because the preset with delay will have to be edited, too. And more editing is more good. Remember Yngwie? More is more!

 

[texhex]

That's what I heard in one vid. These are all 24 hours rush impressions to get something on air.
Hopefully better details flesh out soon.



And sexy AF imo. Desktop unit all the way.
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Just realized I sold my QC well before they implemented an editor.
That's gonna make exploring the Nano even more fun!

I just watched the "In Depth" NDSP video and that was the take away. Preset change. Friggin weird.

 

[holoholo]

TOP is cracking me up. "models and captures are the same thing let's not get pedantic". Uhhh hell no they aren't.

 

[texhex]

Come on, it's a feature. Editing single presets is for pussies. Should you want less gain on your driven sound, you will now have to edit TWO presets instead of one, because the preset with delay will have to be edited, too. And more editing is more good. Remember Yngwie? More is more!

Yeah man, that was my first thought. You would have to edit ALL of the Presets you wanted to modify and there are only 4 you can change with the 2 foot switches. I wonder if people really understand what the foot switches actually do and don't do. LOL!

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

@paisleywookiee No it doesn't ( as I said in a later comment ).
Sure it's a nice feature to have, but I don't it matters enough to be quite honest, especially considering the great quality and flexibility of the NAM trainer, and batch training etc.

I'd rather have all the added features that do exist in the Dimehead, it has far more flexiblility, performance and routing options that don't seem to be available in the NDSP NC.

@Sascha Franck - the Param control on the Dimehead seems to do what you need, can control all parameters in any preset.
Hopefully it's never ending enough. The other more fixed controls are easy access and work really nicely in my opinion. YMMV.

 

[Achilles]

TOP is cracking me up. "models and captures are the same thing"

Devils advocate agrees. They're both facsimiles of an amplifier. They can both be edited in the same basic way as an amplifier.

After that it's totally apples and oranges. We just get caught up in the weeds sometimes though.

 

[Sedaxel]

Dimehead:
1. It can load 2 x NAM models in series eg. drive or fuzz > amp

Good... Point for them. Not important to be, though.

. 500ma

Great (didn't know that).

3. Has an fx loop

For me, it's not needed at all.

4. Run dual simultaneous outputs (xlr DI Out with cab on + a line out that can be tapped before the cab section, after, or from anywhere in the chain eg. just a drive, or whatever you like).

I expect the NC to do that.

5. Has a tuner

NC has tuner too.

6. Load any Reverb Impulse of upto 60 seconds in length - this is massively useful.

Good... But honestly, I'm not in that IR reverbs (for me it's just hype, maybe I'm wrong). For you is massively useful, for me is not.

7. Has a multi mode display, including a live mode that shows a big preset name.

Well, display thing is a classic debate. In this kind of pedal, I don't find it too necessary. Besides, Dimehead display is just horrible for on board tweaking (based on Leo Gibson review I wouldnt see a single letter). For me, curiously, the display is a con in the Dimehead.

8. (probably) better latency

Yeah, I'm sure it is. Nevertheless, I expect NC latency to be good enough. Not a deal breaker.

9. Similarly, great updates, and more expected.

I seriously doubt that both effects quality and updates could be on par to the ones of a stronger company. But that's still too be seen.

10. Massive community online

Yeah, massive captures with gain all over the place. Don't even bothered to enter there myself, and I'm a NAM user. Massive loss of time, I'd say. For me, THIS is the deal breaker.

11. Cross platform (models can be loaded in a pedal, a daw, a mobile phone, whatever...)

Yeah, same as above... It means little if I can't trust models gain.

12. NAM Training is arguably better, and more flexible.

Again. Won't repeat myself. NAM captures are great. I enjoy them A LOT. My own ones, though. They also take much more time.

At the end, basically I don't think a NAM player is an option unless you only need your own captures. I'm not against Dimehead, I just find other options as more simple and reliable in different ways.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Devils advocate agrees. They're both facsimiles of an amplifier. They can both be edited in the same basic way as an amplifier.

How so? You can only deviate so far from the source on a capture, before it starts sounding weird, and not like the original. Component modeling is just that; modeling the components, therefore each individual settings, of an amp.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

@Sedaxel
It's fair enough that you might have those views, and you may not use some features yourself, but, I shall still stand by my point re: better flexibility

 

[Lysander]

Devils advocate agrees. They're both facsimiles of an amplifier. They can both be edited in the same basic way as an amplifier.

Nah. "Editing" a capture is basically tweaking pre- and post-eq. There's a massive functional difference.

 

[paisleywookiee]

@paisleywookiee No it doesn't ( as I said in a later comment ).
Sure it's a nice feature to have, but I don't it matters enough to be quite honest, especially considering the great quality and flexibility of the NAM trainer, and batch training etc.

Sure it matters. Capturing with NAM or ToneX is an absolute pain in the ass, and takes quite awhile.

 

[Mongillo19]

WHEN DID I WALK INTO A DIMEHEAD INFOMERCIAL