GTR37
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Let’s see how they sell
I see plenty wanting a wireless app
And being fine with that , because it matches their workflow
Some interesting news from Kemper (Profiler Player)
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I see plenty wanting a wireless app
And being fine with that , because it matches their workflow
paisleywookiee
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No display, reliance on an app is horseshit, IMO. Value add, yes. Dependence, fuck no.
PorcinePicker
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Even though I'm solidly in the Fractal camp, I'm actually a fan of Kemper. That said, I think they have made two serious judgement errors.
First, I think they have underestimated just how much the world at large loathes the DLC business model. Second, they sacrificed too much to squeeze this into a small form factor.
I see absolutely nothing here that would prompt anyone to buy this over a used toaster for a few hundred more.
First, I think they have underestimated just how much the world at large loathes the DLC business model. Second, they sacrificed too much to squeeze this into a small form factor.
I see absolutely nothing here that would prompt anyone to buy this over a used toaster for a few hundred more.
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Well, it's even worse. They sacrificed things without necessity. There's space for a display and better encoders, the lack of both severely impacting whatever workflow you may think of.
NightWalker
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There is a display …
Our approach to the Profiler Player was to boil down the Profiler to a very portable size, and give it a no-nerd user interface for those that appreciate a simple and „analog“ approach. These users usually don‘t rise their voices on internet forums such as this.
We have decided very early against a graphic display. All endless encoders show their value on a LED by pushing or turning them, so the bargraph is our display. You will see this when you play with the unit for the first time. For a live performance you will arrange a typical handful of Rigs, that you can access quickly with the three assignable foot switches. As these are your precious Rigs, you will probably memorize them faster than you can switch them by foot (think of the old days when devices displays only had numbers for presets). Therefore we found a display showing the Rig names to be dispensable. Alternatively, our remote apps offer the view and access to all 50 Rigs by the touch on the screen.
A purchase recommendation: A Kindle Fire tablet is available at a very low price, 2 digits in some countries. Plus, many of us already have a tablet and most all of us have a smart phone. You probably already have the “display”.
For a display UI on the device to comfortably access the large number of parameters, we would have had to scrap nearly all controls on the surface, leaving merely the Gain and Master Volume and something. This was not what we wanted, knowing that many users prefer to edit sounds using a comfortable remote app anyway.
Ahhh What's that? A New Kemper Model? Profiler Player - Kemper Profiler Forum
https://youtu.be/1ObN-3_FwCM?si=365iD28vifjIThPm
www.kemper-amps.com
NightWalker
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Ahhh What's that? A New Kemper Model? Profiler Player - Kemper Profiler Forum
https://youtu.be/1ObN-3_FwCM?si=365iD28vifjIThPm
www.kemper-amps.com
GTR37
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It’s not for me or you , but it is what many wanted if you take the GUI out ,
Give us a profile player only
Christophe ok here is your Kemper player only
paisleywookiee
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No, there isn’t. There is no onboard LCD display your relies on a phone app. That’s insane on a $700 device, IMO. have you used an app (or tried to) after your phone updated, and the app doesn’t work until they patch it? I have. It blows goats.
This device screams “this is a $700 accessory for those that already own a Stage, Rack or Toaster.”
yeky83
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Eh, no display isn’t insane cus it’s $700. This does way more than two UA pedals and caters to the same sort of crowd. It’s a great offering from Kemper, just not for everyone.
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DLC?
Mongillo19
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Downloadable content. Popular in video games to add additional content to the base game
I disagree. But whatever. It's all good :) Everyone should buy what makes you happy.
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JUst think of the $$$ they saved by not having a display and still charging top dollar for more profit. engenius
paisleywookiee
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I mean, it’s insane to me, in a world where the HX Stomp has existed for several years, and the FM3T is barely more. But YMMV.
UA pedals are hilariously overpriced too. I wouldn’t use that as a barometer of value.
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True. An utterly stupid one requiring you to learn a completely weird color code to manage your banks and also requiring you to press a knob to learn about its programmed value. Definitely deserves a design award.
Just because there's other pedals as stupid doesn't justify anything in my book.
Personally, I am happily spending a premium on excellent stuff. But I'm not doing so because something is just somewhat better than a turd.
yeky83
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Made in Germany, they gotta make that work somehow. I hope they’re successful.
With the additional processing power available, I’d much rather see them use it toward a stereo input… but that would require another SKU and it doesn’t seem likely they’ll do that.
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What would that be good for on a unit with just mono amps and very little worthwhile FX?
yeky83
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So the UA pedals are stupid too?
Now you’re just being hyperbolic.
yeky83
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They’d have to allow stereo amps in my dream stereo-Player unit. I think Kemper FX are worthwhile, I like ‘em.
Sascha Franck
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Either that or too expensive. Same thing here.
No. I think that this device is full stop displaying stupid decisions.
