Foxmeister
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I'd imagine that keeping "Profiler" in the name leaves the door open for allowing it to create profiles in the future...
Some interesting news from Kemper (Profiler Player)
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Sascha Franck
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Regarding that, I think the concept is fine. Offers everything to work on its own for small gigs (only stupid omission: lack of global EQ) and once you run it in a larger scale setup, you'll likely have other options anyway.
And in case you really needed a "brain" for a larger scale setup, well, there's the Stage.
IMO, Kempers were never meant to be that anyway, with their fixed signal path and focus on profiles.
Anyhow, I still agree on your consensus: This thing seems to manage to lack something for pretty much everybody.
Even if it's different things different folks are missing, I haven't seen much (if any) comments a la "just what I needed!"
Compare that to, say, the HX Stomp. While severely limited in many aspects, while many UI aspects aren't properly designed to make the HX tech fully enjoyable in such a small enclosure, it's still something many people (even super critical ones like me) consider a fantastic all around unit. Personally, regarding the HXS, I'm more or less happily willing to deal with its shortcomings (even if some of them could really be addressed easily). Couldn't say the same about the Kemper Player.
Enchilada Jones
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I understand the naming thing doesn't help but let's face it, if it sounds good lots of customers will buy it no matter what you call it. Just look at 'Tonocracy' for example 
eggpl@nt
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It's not about a bad name, it's about a misleading name. Sweetwater even says...I understand the naming thing doesn't help but let's face it, if it sounds good lots of customers will buy it no matter what you call it. Just look at 'Tonocracy' for example
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I would absolutely LOVE a QC “docking station”. (More to the point, I’d love three or four of them.)
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The New Marketing NormalTM
Mongillo19
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QC has a chance to turn their ship around with the TMP launch and now this
Not saying they will but they have a chance to earn some good faith as we see even a company like Kemper make some truly confusing PR decisions
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Yeah the NDSP comparisons here are really weird. With NDSP the paywall was a “premium feature”. Everyone (except me) was excited about it, and then angry that NDSP failed to realize. Quite the opposite. And the resulting price structure, had they not dropped the ball, wasn’t vague in the slightest. Everyone knew what their plugins cost/ would cost. They were known quantities - which was kind of the entire point.
eggpl@nt
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Confusing is probably the right word. I don't think it's malicious, necessarily. I understand the idea that "Profiler" is the trademark, thus "Profiler" goes on the box. But you couple that with statements like I quoted from Sweetwater, and you can easily run into a confusing situation where someone doesn't really understand what the device can and can't do.QC has a chance to turn their ship around with the TMP launch and now this
Not saying they will but they have a chance to earn some good faith as we see even a company like Kemper make some truly confusing PR decisions
Edit: Speaking of the QC, I hate that I keep checking SW to see if they still have a black/gold in stock...
Mongillo19
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Not to me. I'm new to the digital realm so when I think of not being transparent with your product, I think of the QC
To me, Kemper are being very non transparent with the Player. Don't outright state it doesn't do profiling, vague and untrue SW page (take your plugins on the go! Vs full fledged kemper on your board!), and hey maybe there will be additional features to get you to the above statement on our sales page but maybe not! Guessing is half the fun!
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The interesting part is how laws and certifications prevented them from making a Toaster with optional poweramp. I wonder what was up with that? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Kemper sell a Rack with an optional poweramp module originally? Or were those just 3rd party modules to mod it into a PowerRack?gg.
Based on that post, I guess we might expect a poweramp box and maybe some profiling addition box for it.
Mongillo19
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These?
Camplifier - RITTER Amplification
Add on amplifier modules for the Kemper Profiling Amplifier "Toaster" !
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To be fair to the English language, it is a Profile Player.
EDIT: OK, stale joke apparently.
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Mongillo19
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If you have any interest in trying it again, I'd snag the LE. Once it goes out of stock and it you decide it isn't for you and to resell, you might actually make all your money back and maybe then some!
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OK, I see the comparison in general (although it’s harder for me to see Kemper as having been non- transparent, simply because it’s in my nature to read the fine print FIRST lol.)
What I don’t see is the specific comparison re: QCs alleged plug-in path. People always knew that that was going to cost… the price of the plug-in(s).
eggpl@nt
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I need someone to push me away from a purchase, not toward one lol
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The Camplifiers fit in the backs of toasters, actually.These?
Camplifier - RITTER Amplification
Add on amplifier modules for the Kemper Profiling Amplifier "Toaster" !shop.ritteramps.de
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