Some interesting news from Kemper (Profiler Player)

[Mongillo19]

I need someone to push me away from a purchase, not toward one lol

 

[mbenigni]

One of the bazillion differences for me is Kemper earned their OG place at the table. The other one; um not so much

Meh (and you know I hate the word “meh”), what does “OG status” do for me?

I also don’t drive a Model T Ford. Legendary automotive and industrial achievement. None of what I need.

 

[Mongillo19]

, I see the comparison in general (although it’s harder for me to see Kemper as having been non- transparent, simply because it’s in my nature to read the fine print FIRST lol.)

Agreed, but this also makes me a little more frustrated as it's such a deviation from what they have stood for.

As far as the fine print. I don't see anywhere in the manual or any print where it specifically says it doesn't create profiles. Yeah you could figure it out on your own but imo they need to make it more clear

 

[Enchilada Jones]

It's not about a bad name, it's about a misleading name. Sweetwater even says...

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I don't believe for a minute Sweetwater was confused.
I don't think Kemper ever advertised that 'full fledged Kemper' designation. Kemper pointed out the differences in every thing I saw them say about it.
For someone to construct that sentence required knowledge of what a 'full fledged Kemper' is and a calculation of how the two things compare. The potential for any difference is the whole point of the sentence. The data used to formulate that statement was pulled from Mitch's ass, not Kemper.

 

[Mongillo19]

The data used to formulate that statement was pulled from Mitch's ass, not Kemper.

Well im sure Kemper will be in contact ASAP to get it corrected then! I wouldn't want false info out on my product

 

[mbenigni]

Agreed, but this also makes me a little more frustrated as it's such a deviation from what they have stood for.

As far as the fine print. I don't see anywhere in the manual or any print where it specifically says it doesn't create profiles. Yeah you could figure it out on your own but imo they need to make it more clear

You’re absolutely right. Truth is, none of the fine print I’ve read has been their own (because I’m not sufficiently motivated by the product at this point); it’s been word of mouth here at TGF.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I can't get angry at Kemper. NDSP, OTOH;

 

[mbenigni]

I can't get angry at Kemper. NDSP, OTOH;

This seems rational.

 

[JiveTurkey]

This seems rational.

My fine print has never said anything about being rational

 

[Mongillo19]

My fine print Hass never said anything about being rational

 

[Lysander]

You’re absolutely right. Truth is, none of the fine print I’ve read has been their own (because I’m not sufficiently motivated by the product at this point); it’s been word of mouth here at TGF.

It doesn't outright state so (no idea why), but the manual explains that yes, you'll need another device to create profiles.

 

[GTR37]

This product IMO is exactly what people were asking for , it is a little late to the market but I have seen this request for years with exact statements like
“I don’t give a crap about the profiling feature, I don’t plan on profiling any amps, just give me a player “

They have done just that at $650
And also provided a portable solution to existing users that want to carry a small box on fly gigs
Jam on the bus or in hotel rooms etc , it’s a good product for many

 

[Mongillo19]

It doesn't outright state so (no idea why), but the manual explains that yes, you'll need another device to create profiles.
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That is in fact fine print

 

[mbenigni]

This product IMO is exactly what people were asking for , it is a little late to the market but I have seen this request for years with exact statements like
“I don’t give a crap about the profiling feature, I don’t plan on profiling any amps, just give me a player “

They have done just that at $650
And also provided a portable solution to existing users that want to carry a small box on fly gigs
Jam on the bus or in hotel rooms etc , it’s a good product for many

It’s true. I have, more than once, said that I would pay this much for a pedal that just played the one profile block (.kipr file). Of course, times/ needs/ alternatives change… This would have been top of my list a few years ago.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Then they should have named it “Profile” Player, not “Profiler” Player.

But……it plays profilers.

 

[Sascha Franck]

gg.

What a load of nonsense from the guy.

 

[Sascha Franck]

This product IMO is exactly what people were asking for

Can't remember anyone asking for a displayless modeler with encoders functioning as on keyboards in the 90s.

 

[timbuck3]

What a load of nonsense from the guy.

isnt that like teslas model limiting batteries for less cost upfront? but you can expand it later for more $$

 

[Sascha Franck]

isnt that like teslas model limiting batteries for less cost upfront? but you can expand it later for more $$

That too. As if people were applauding Tesla...

But especially the nonsense about "we couldn't make the poweramp an update because of blahblah..." is just utter BS. There's no technical reason for that.

 

[ejecta]

I'm the brand fanatic when folks think guys that run small companies need defending...