Hi,
I have many questions about NAM technology I use on my MacBook (after fighting to understand why Apple didn’t allow to install it because not verified!! Damn Apple!)
So I can understand what’s going on there,
Q1 : is NAM a decentralized project ?
As far as I can understand :
Actor 1 -[FREE] Steve NAM GitHub https://www.neuralampmodeler.com/
Neural Amp Modeler is NAM is a an open source project (a ai researcher named Steve who made it for his own use but decided to share with people his great find)
Actor 1 - to play the captures .nam you need the plugin but it’s very cpu demanding compared to others (ToneX)
Actor 2 - [FREE] https://www.tone3000.com/
to MAKE your own capture you have to use a third party website, without any paying fees (?)
Actor 2 - to download the captures you have to go to the same website and download them
Actor 3 - [commercial product] https://www.dimehead.de/
to use .nam in live situation on a pedal only the NAM PLAYER from Dime Head brand is truly doing the job right now (?)
Actor 4 - https://www.darkglass.com/creation/anagram/
Anagram is offering a .nam player inside his new multifx pedal but : it’s made for bassist and NAM users doubt it can really perform as well as the Dime Head player because some other brands tried to and kind of failed at it because of the lack of cpu and so used converted .nam and that’s so people are waiting for Leo Gibson to make the testing before purchasing
Q2 : NULL TEST is used to make sure the difference between the real amp and all those captures are sounding the same. It’s her scientific test, am I right? Is blind testing Ear testing outdated?
And the difference is very low between ToneX and NAM, NAM being like 2% better at null test so most guitar player would struggle to make any diffence in capture quality (am I right here?)
Q3 : So to understand if I buy the ANAGRAM I have to trust at least 3 different actors on the future of my device being able to run .nam captures?
Q4 : Also NAM is popular because of two things ? :
- it’s free (and open)
- it’s the best (by a small margin with trade of being a lot more cpu demanding)
BUT I have to spend at least 600€ to run it. So ToneX one or NanoCortex seems more polished and from the most trustworthy brands for less money overall (Neural DSP, IK Multimedia)
I don’t want to be unpleasant but how Steve the father of NAM can be involved in a professional manner if he doesn’t make any money of the support of NAM project, despite others actors are dependent of his future work?
Actor 3 will always depend on actor 2 (earning no money at what I understand?) who will always depend of actor 1 who earn zero money?
Am I missing something?
But if that’s not the case, we are living in post capitalism world for sure! (Great news imo, like music industry today, we pay for live playing mostly haha)
The goal is not to convince anybody to use ToneX or NanoCortex or to give a personal opinion on something I don’t really use everyday, but try to learn because it’s becoming really good as technology
I came here because I’m an Helix Native user and Kemper user and saw a video from Tone Junkie TV who talked about NAM and the possibility of the tech being adopted by Line6 in next gen Helix product. I personally think that would be a great idea because even if actor 1 and 2 drop out, a strong actor 3 could replace them to make the product line durable like Helix is right now.
Also for some reason I can’t join the Facebook NAM group from Actor 1 or actor 2 but that’s because I’m not an active Facebook user (the same for other Facebook pages, not specific to this group in my case) that’s why I may not have some clarification you may have ! But couldn’t find them on this forum anyway. I use YouTube a lot as my work allow me to listen to podcast, everything I know comes from Leo Gibson and Tone Junkie
Thanks!
I have many questions about NAM technology I use on my MacBook (after fighting to understand why Apple didn’t allow to install it because not verified!! Damn Apple!)
So I can understand what’s going on there,
Q1 : is NAM a decentralized project ?
As far as I can understand :
Actor 1 -[FREE] Steve NAM GitHub https://www.neuralampmodeler.com/
Neural Amp Modeler is NAM is a an open source project (a ai researcher named Steve who made it for his own use but decided to share with people his great find)
Actor 1 - to play the captures .nam you need the plugin but it’s very cpu demanding compared to others (ToneX)
Actor 2 - [FREE] https://www.tone3000.com/
to MAKE your own capture you have to use a third party website, without any paying fees (?)
Actor 2 - to download the captures you have to go to the same website and download them
Actor 3 - [commercial product] https://www.dimehead.de/
to use .nam in live situation on a pedal only the NAM PLAYER from Dime Head brand is truly doing the job right now (?)
Actor 4 - https://www.darkglass.com/creation/anagram/
Anagram is offering a .nam player inside his new multifx pedal but : it’s made for bassist and NAM users doubt it can really perform as well as the Dime Head player because some other brands tried to and kind of failed at it because of the lack of cpu and so used converted .nam and that’s so people are waiting for Leo Gibson to make the testing before purchasing
Q2 : NULL TEST is used to make sure the difference between the real amp and all those captures are sounding the same. It’s her scientific test, am I right? Is blind testing Ear testing outdated?
And the difference is very low between ToneX and NAM, NAM being like 2% better at null test so most guitar player would struggle to make any diffence in capture quality (am I right here?)
Q3 : So to understand if I buy the ANAGRAM I have to trust at least 3 different actors on the future of my device being able to run .nam captures?
Q4 : Also NAM is popular because of two things ? :
- it’s free (and open)
- it’s the best (by a small margin with trade of being a lot more cpu demanding)
BUT I have to spend at least 600€ to run it. So ToneX one or NanoCortex seems more polished and from the most trustworthy brands for less money overall (Neural DSP, IK Multimedia)
I don’t want to be unpleasant but how Steve the father of NAM can be involved in a professional manner if he doesn’t make any money of the support of NAM project, despite others actors are dependent of his future work?
Actor 3 will always depend on actor 2 (earning no money at what I understand?) who will always depend of actor 1 who earn zero money?
Am I missing something?
But if that’s not the case, we are living in post capitalism world for sure! (Great news imo, like music industry today, we pay for live playing mostly haha)
The goal is not to convince anybody to use ToneX or NanoCortex or to give a personal opinion on something I don’t really use everyday, but try to learn because it’s becoming really good as technology
I came here because I’m an Helix Native user and Kemper user and saw a video from Tone Junkie TV who talked about NAM and the possibility of the tech being adopted by Line6 in next gen Helix product. I personally think that would be a great idea because even if actor 1 and 2 drop out, a strong actor 3 could replace them to make the product line durable like Helix is right now.
Also for some reason I can’t join the Facebook NAM group from Actor 1 or actor 2 but that’s because I’m not an active Facebook user (the same for other Facebook pages, not specific to this group in my case) that’s why I may not have some clarification you may have ! But couldn’t find them on this forum anyway. I use YouTube a lot as my work allow me to listen to podcast, everything I know comes from Leo Gibson and Tone Junkie
Thanks!