Quad Cortex plugin support officially goes from "soon" to "eventually"

[Mongillo19]

Especially if he’s holding on to the QC.

Was going to say this as well. Doesn't add anything the QC doesn't do.

 

[James Freeman]

Cortex Native

CORTEX NATIVE Trademark Application of Neural DSP Technologies Oy - Serial Number 90148626 :: Justia Trademarks

Downloadable software that models hardware, namely, devices for modeling sound amplifiers and musical instruments

trademarks.justia.com

 

[JiveTurkey]

Cortex Native

CORTEX NATIVE Trademark Application of Neural DSP Technologies Oy - Serial Number 90148626 :: Justia Trademarks

Downloadable software that models hardware, namely, devices for modeling sound amplifiers and musical instruments

trademarks.justia.com

What an original name!

 

[mbenigni]

Return it. At this point; you've done your due diligence.

Sad thing is I went on for a few minutes to enjoy playing through the thing. Some of it sounds really great, as I’ve said. But I need to get through a good amount of content reorganization to make it useful and a) the on-device UI is terrible, and b) the PC editor is worse. In fact the PC editor is so terrible I haven’t even managed to determine whether it’s intended to serve as an editor yet.

 

[GTR37]

Cortex Native

CORTEX NATIVE Trademark Application of Neural DSP Technologies Oy - Serial Number 90148626 :: Justia Trademarks

Downloadable software that models hardware, namely, devices for modeling sound amplifiers and musical instruments

trademarks.justia.com

Ok this is just dumb , as if enough people already were not drawing line6 comparisons

 

[JiveTurkey]

Sad thing is I went on for a few minutes to enjoy playing through the thing. Some of it sounds really great, as I’ve said. But I need to get through a good amount of content reorganization to make it useful and a) the on-device UI is terrible, and b) the PC editor is worse. In fact the PC editor is so terrible I haven’t even managed to determine whether it’s intended to serve as an editor yet.

It's not. As far as the pedal is concerned; it's mainly just a portal to hell to ToneNet

 

[Mongillo19]

It's not. As far as the pedal is concerned; it's mainly just a portal to hell to ToneNet

Yeah my method is just using a slot on the pedal I know I'll never use as my audition slot.

 

[mbenigni]

Especially if he’s holding on to the QC.

ToneX was never going to supplant QC for me either way. More a question of whether to use this with HX stomp for my “other” rig, ie whether the improvement in amp tones is worth the addtl footprint and usability headaches. That bargain isn’t playing out so well.

 

[JiveTurkey]

ToneX was never going to supplant QC for me either way. More a question of whether to use this with HX stomp for my “other” rig, ie whether the improvement in amp tones is worth the addtl footprint and usability headaches. That bargain isn’t playing out so well.

I'll say I just fired up ToneX in 4cm with the Stomp and went through a few HX drives and it kicks some serious booty. You need to find that cap that trips your trigger then never touch the software again

 

[mbenigni]

It's not. As far as the pedal is concerned; it's mainly just a portal to hell to ToneNet

Don’t make me say “double standard” again.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Hey, at least here we're self aware enough to know that these experiments in the search for "improving tone" is pretty much a lie we tell ourselves to justify new gear

 

[creative360]

the route they take to get there is completely different

Since you quoted me, I just want to say for the record that I agree.

ToneX and QC snaps are literally new versions of the thing that Christoph Kemper invented.

It's better for us that there are alternatives to Kemper. I'm all for it. And if there's anything legal or not to say about it, let them work that out. But this isn't a grey area like the beginning of modeling. If anyone else was even thinking about something like what Christoph Kemper came up with, they weren't talking about it, at all. Whatever, he may be relieved that after all this time other manufacturers are taking on the task of adopting his tech and responding to the public in ways that may not interest him.

ToneX was never going to supplant QC for me either way.

Sometimes I think your undying loyalty to that device is just meant to spite the rest of us. And then I look in the mirror, after ten years with the KPA. Wait, are these digital forums what aged me?

 

[Whizzinby]

Maybe nothing but they filed the trademark

DUAL CORTEX Trademark Application of Neural DSP Technologies Oy - Serial Number 90145477 :: Justia Trademarks

Computer hardware devices that model amplifiers, effects pedals, and musical instruments

trademarks.justia.com

 

[mbenigni]

“Funnier with cats” is back, baby!

 

[dronerstone]

Hey, at least here we're self aware enough to know that these experiments in the search for "improving tone" is pretty much a lie we tell ourselves to justify new gear

And that's where phrases like "flavor of the month/week" come in. Because we keep on wanting.

 

[Foxmeister]

ToneX and QC snaps are literally new versions of the thing that Christoph Kemper invented.

When it comes to inventions, what is more important in terms of IP protection, is not what you do, which starts as an idea, it's how you do it, which is the invention.

 

[James Freeman]

When it comes to inventions, what is more important in terms of IP protection, is not what you do, which starts as an idea, it's how you do it, which is the invention.

Yep, the patents wording have many loopholes so no one has a strong case.
Kemper doesn't use 'neural network' and ToneX is not a 'device', etc etc.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Does kemper use ai at all?

 

[James Freeman]

Does kemper use ai at all?

Probably not.
I would guess it tweaks a pre-made preamp, think of it as advanced automatic tone matching.

 

[Foxmeister]

Probably not.
I would guess it tweaks a pre-made preamp, think of it as advanced automatic tone matching.

I believe this may be correct, as I recall hearing that the Kemper has something like 5 "reference" models, and during the capture process it works out which one is closest to the test tones and uses this as the basis for the profile.

I've no idea if this is true or not, but if it is, it would explain the Kemper "sonic signature" that some people hear.