Quad Cortex plugin support officially goes from "soon" to "eventually"

That's fair. I never considered the QC a floor unit in the first place so for me it worked pretty great as a desktop box. The marketing obviously wanted to have that "most powerful floor unit" title, only to have Fractal dunk on them within a few months with the FM9.

For the record I didn't like the FM3 as a floor unit either. Fractal just recently added a larger text mode to the home screen to make it decently readable on the floor. Both Helix and QC did better for on-screen readability.

Man, I really take my eyes for granted (I wear contacts/glasses) because I’ve never had a problem reading those screens. Even in the Florida sun without any cover I could see my FM9’s screen just fine.

What else can we get discounts on for this forum? Can we get Lenscrafters to sponsor the forum? All those who can’t read their modelers, 25% of your next eye appointment!
 
Man, I really take my eyes for granted (I wear contacts/glasses) because I’ve never had a problem reading those screens. Even in the Florida sun without any cover I could see my FM9’s screen just fine.

What else can we get discounts on for this forum? Can we get Lenscrafters to sponsor the forum? All those who can’t read their modelers, 25% of your next eye appointment!
Meanwhile I have laser corrected vision (easily some of the best money I've ever spent!) and would not be comfortable reading the FM3 scene names on the floor.

I think we need a boutique eyeglasses section. I'm sure Marshall will soon make an "Eyesbreaker" set of sunglasses to go with their new reissue pedals.
 
We will have to see if QC's eventually released editor then starts to pivot by offering an "advanced capture" feature that skips the hardware capture's processing phase by piping the data to your computer instead. It could even be wireless since only the audio part requires physical connections.
There’s no way that will happen. They are having a hard enough problem just having your computer make changes on a connected QC.
 
The tenses in this sentence don't make sense, the announcement is unclear. So are they saying they were prioritizing plugin porting at full speed for the last 2 years?
So much this. Is it "we have" or is it "we had previously"?? The statement doesn't make it clear whether anything is going to change. (Though the subsequent paragraph implies plugin compatibility will be deprioritized. After 2 years of its having been a top priority yielding... nothing.)

Weird to be so vague in the midst of text that doesn't hesitate to precisely call out embedded systems vs. x86 etc. etc. etc.

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Meanwhile I have laser corrected vision (easily some of the best money I've ever spent!) and would not be comfortable reading the FM3 scene names on the floor.

I think we need a boutique eyeglasses section. I'm sure Marshall will soon make an "Eyesbreaker" set of sunglasses to go with their new reissue pedals.

But they're pricey, and just like the original ones, you'll have to dime them for unity vision. :(
 
So much this. Is it "we have" or is it "we had previously"?? The statement doesn't make it clear whether anything is going to change. (Though the subsequent paragraph implies plugin compatibility will be deprioritized. After 2 years of its having been a top priority yielding... nothing.)

Weird to be so vague in the midst of text that doesn't hesitate to precisely call out embedded systems vs. x86 etc. etc. etc.

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Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.


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From there we have: also stole its most fundamental selling point from Kemper (and in more specific terms, one could argue, from NDSP! But here, no one cares.)
A bit O/T, but I've never really bought into the idea that NDSP (and now IK) *stole* anything from Kemper.

As far as I'm aware, whilst they both have the same goal, the route they take to get there is completely different, and I'm pretty sure the Kemper method was pretty heavily patented to prevent IP theft.

Kemper have had an exceptionally long run being the only game in town when it came to amp profiling, and it is testament to Christoph's genius that it has basically taken over 10 years for the market to "catch up".

I do think that the QCs UI was heavily influenced by the Helix, but I also think there there aren't too many ways you can really "model" a signal chain and when I had my QC, I found its similarity to the Helix UI quite comforting.
 
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You know we used to replatform entire companies’ (finance erp … or anything really) running on real big fuckin’ iron … from $500k to $1B

Doesn’t take anything but a little bit of time and money. There are third-party firms who do this all day long. Specialists - top men lol

It’s not a question of if or when, it’s a question of why the fudge haven’t they done it already?

Competency appears to be a lost art.
 
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Hey, i know shitting on the QC is the sport du jour around here. But if you enjoy your device, eff everyone else. It's not like it's not capable of great, fun sounds.
Got nothing against the unit. I embrace all I can regardless the badge, and have had die trying to buy QC for months (without any success). What annoys me endlessly is the company and their stance about everything.
 
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You know we used to be platform entire companies’ (finance erp … or anything really) running on real big *****in’ iron … from $500k to $1B

Doesn’t take anything but a little bit of time and money. There are third-party firms who do this all day long. Specialists - top men lol

It’s not a question of if or when, it’s a question of why the fudge haven’t they done it already?

Competency appears to be a lost art.
Big money players are just focused on other things at the moment - reshuffling the stratego board. Means of production type of shiz can wait until whatever is left and where it is left.
 
Meanwhile I have laser corrected vision (easily some of the best money I've ever spent!) and would not be comfortable reading the FM3 scene names on the floor.

I think we need a boutique eyeglasses section. I'm sure Marshall will soon make an "Eyesbreaker" set of sunglasses to go with their new reissue pedals.
Look upon my works, ye lasik, and despair!
 

^excerpted from:

TL;DR

“At first, the plugins were being built the old-fashioned way, without machine learning. But the limitations of that approach were soon evident. “We realised it took one of our super-brilliant, world-class PhDs around seven weeks to model an amplifier. Forget about any delays, reverbs, cab simulation, all of that. One amp – seven weeks. And to find enough people that were really good at conventional amp modelling was going to be very hard – there are very few people who understand it from top to bottom – you need to really understand analogue electronics, and DSP algorithms, turning the analogue behaviour into equations, and then you need to be really good at programming so they actually write code that’s efficient and run the model in real time. Finding one person who can do all that? That’s really hard.”
—Doug Castro


In the article isn’t he stating that after some initial white box modeled plugins their overall amp modeling became black boxed based.
 
A bit O/T, but I've never really bought into the idea that NDSP (and now IK) *stole* anything from Kemper.
Since you quoted me, I just want to say for the record that I agree. That observation has been made many times here ("everything about the QC was stolen from..."); I was just calling out the inconsistency. I expect that the inevitable good will we'll see toward any product that competes with QC (the enemy of my enemy is my friend?) is going to be marked by that same inconsistency.
 

^excerpted from:

TL;DR

“At first, the plugins were being built the old-fashioned way, without machine learning. But the limitations of that approach were soon evident. “We realised it took one of our super-brilliant, world-class PhDs around seven weeks to model an amplifier. Forget about any delays, reverbs, cab simulation, all of that. One amp – seven weeks. And to find enough people that were really good at conventional amp modelling was going to be very hard – there are very few people who understand it from top to bottom – you need to really understand analogue electronics, and DSP algorithms, turning the analogue behaviour into equations, and then you need to be really good at programming so they actually write code that’s efficient and run the model in real time. Finding one person who can do all that? That’s really hard.”
—Doug Castro


In the article isn’t he stating that after some initial white box modeled plugins their overall amp modeling became black boxed based.
IIRC he's said their plugins don't have a singular approach to modeling and they change the methods as they develop them, adding in black boxes as they see fit.

He keeps saying this kind of stuff in interviews:
"We record signals for a few hours, and then we train the model on those... On our own servers, it would be four to six hours of recording, and then eight hours of training."

So they can pop out an amp model in 14 hours and it's all automated... Really? Where's all the amp models?

And it's contradictory to the issue of knob permutations that DC himself laid out:
Let's say 7 knobs on an amp, 10 positions per knob. That's 10^7 permutations.
A capture signal on the QC takes ~1 minute. So play a 1 minute signal 10^7 times, that's 7000 days.
How are they getting it done in supposedly 4-6 hours of recording?
 
IIRC he's said their plugins don't have a singular approach to modeling and they change the methods as they develop them, adding in black boxes as they see fit.

He keeps saying this kind of stuff in interviews:
"We record signals for a few hours, and then we train the model on those... On our own servers, it would be four to six hours of recording, and then eight hours of training."

So they can pop out an amp model in 14 hours and it's all automated... Really? Where's all the amp models?

And it's contradictory to the issue of knob permutations that DC himself laid out:
Let's say 7 knobs on an amp, 10 positions per knob. That's 10^7 permutations.
A capture signal on the QC takes ~1 minute. So play a 1 minute signal 10^7 times, that's 7000 days.
How are they getting it done in supposedly 4-6 hours of recording?
On Leon's discord a former employee of neural was chatting about gear. They mentioned how if he goes digital is will certainly not be NDSP. Now sure there could have been some divide if said person was let go etc but they mentioned how since they "know how the sausage is made" at NDSP, he will be avoiding their products.

Could be something, could be nothing
 
On Leon's discord a former employee of neural was chatting about gear. They mentioned how if he goes digital is will certainly not be NDSP. Now sure there could have been some divide if said person was let go etc but they mentioned how since they "know how the sausage is made" at NDSP, he will be avoiding their products.

Could be something, could be nothing
:popcorn
 
On Leon's discord a former employee of neural was chatting about gear. They mentioned how if he goes digital is will certainly not be NDSP. Now sure there could have been some divide if said person was let go etc but they mentioned how since they "know how the sausage is made" at NDSP, he will be avoiding their products.

Could be something, could be nothing

There‘s been confusion over how they do their modeling since the start. I don’t know if it’s intentional or just Doug firing from the hip but whenever the discussion comes up, you end up seeing multiple quotes from him/the company and after everyone posts their evidence, there’s still no final conclusion to come to.

Hahhahaha you walk into NDSP’s office and there’s like 10 Kemper’s lined up all plugged into a computer that says “Neural Network” on the side of the case. :ROFLMAO:
 
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