NDSP Quad Cortex

[Mongillo19]

As said, I completely disagree. There's pretty much no defined attack in the Bias' tone.

AND THE VIDEO LINKED ISNT EVEN THE QC

Guys, I know we like to rag on NDSP, but in a vacuum, it is a great sounding device with a streamlined and easy to use UI. The company, is abysmal, but the actual unit, is quite good. We've had two trusted fractal users in here try and still have the QC in @deadpool_25 and @Orvillain . We KNOW Orv would absolutely tell us if he thought the QC was trash and Deadpool let go of his FM9 for the QC and last I talked with it, doesn't regret it.

There are a list of things to trash the QC on, can we atleast stick to what makes sense

 

[Warmart]

I don't gaf what anyone thinks, I got the tone in my head mega easy with the QC.

Have a whole bank filled with different flavors of Fortin Nameless and Cali's where the amp and sometimes even the OD are captures, and they are fucking amazing. All the research I did and I couldn't find this sound in my FM9, which is highly likely to be my own inability to adjust everything just right - but no matter, either way. Got it quickly on the QC!

Love the QC GUI, and that the editor is the same as the screen. Hate their marketing department, surely! But the design and sound is primo and top of class for me. Maybe not for you, but I'm me.

Use what works for you and let others bicker all they want.

FM9 is available if anyone wants it!

 

[Mongillo19]

FM9 is available if anyone wants it!

 

[norminal]

 

[Stone]

As said, I completely disagree. There's pretty much no defined attack in the Bias' tone.

Yes Sasha Whatever .....

 

[Stone]

I don't gaf what anyone thinks, I got the tone in my head mega easy with the QC.

Have a whole bank filled with different flavors of Fortin Nameless and Cali's where the amp and sometimes even the OD are captures, and they are fucking amazing. All the research I did and I couldn't find this sound in my FM9, which is highly likely to be my own inability to adjust everything just right - but no matter, either way. Got it quickly on the QC!

Love the QC GUI, and that the editor is the same as the screen. Hate their marketing department, surely! But the design and sound is primo and top of class for me. Maybe not for you, but I'm me.

Use what works for you and let others bicker all they want.

FM9 is available if anyone wants it!

This is right Use what works for you

 

[Jarick]

lol QC thread has come full circle where the haters are now the defenders!

 

[namathan_zirwir]

Love the QC GUI, and that the editor is the same as the screen. Hate their marketing department, surely! But the design and sound is primo and top of class for me. Maybe not for you, but I'm me.

I totally agree. Very much dislike the marketing crap and the way the company does things (or doesn't?). Anyways, the QC is an absolutely killer unit. I like it more than any others, by a lot. That is why I use it. Could really careless about the shit they pull off with marketing and all that garbage. Sounds like they have a decent roadmap for feature updates and enhancements, so it will only get better.

 

[deadpool_25]

Can the QC sound great? Yes. Period. If you say it can't, you're fucking biased. If it doesn't sound good to you it's because for some reason you don't want it to.

Does it sound as good as (insert whateverthefuckyouwant)? Bah. Does a plexi sound as good as a JTM45 or a Deluxe? Does a dual rec sound as good as a 5150? Is Snatch as good as Pulp Fiction or Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels? There's no correct answer. Some people will like one better than the other and either side will give various reasons why. Neither is objectively right or wrong. Preferences are, by definition, personal.

I'm so fucking sick of, "this modeler is bertyer!" In fairness, I'd been on the "Fractal just seems better" bandwagon for a while myself but while there are certainly things I can argue are better about Fractal products, I can also argue there are a couple things better about the QC. Those things, though perhaps fewer, could be exceptionally important for a given person. Which is exactly why I'm using the QC now. Some of its unique positives are most important to me right now.

With all that said, I am FAR more of a fan of Fractal as a company. They just do things the right way.

P.S. The Last Jedi sucked ass. That's an objective fact.

 

[Aleksi]

I did a blind AB shootout between the QC and FM3 before selling the QC and for many of the amp models, I could not tell them apart after a tiny bit of tweaking. I did find it more difficult to get satisfying clean tones with the QC for whatever reason, I just found myself constantly tweaking something to get what I want, whereas on the FM3 I can just grab an AC20 for example and just use that for 6 months with just a few minor tweaks.

 

[laxu]

I did a blind AB shootout between the QC and FM3 before selling the QC and for many of the amp models, I could not tell them apart after a tiny bit of tweaking. I did find it more difficult to get satisfying clean tones with the QC for whatever reason, I just found myself constantly tweaking something to get what I want, whereas on the FM3 I can just grab an AC20 for example and just use that for 6 months with just a few minor tweaks.

This was 3 years ago when the QC was just released, but back then I found it was very hit and miss between FM3 and QC. I remember for example on the JTM45 model, on Fractal I could use very typical Marshall settings to get a sound I liked, but to match it on the QC I needed to set very extreme settings on some controls.

Other amp models behaved similarly between the units, where the control positions ended up being similar but not identical - basically the same as any two amps of the same make and model.

There's obviously no issue getting great tones out of the QC, and if the amp models don't work for you, there's always tons of great captures. Effects are a lot harder because if you don't like what you get, your only option is plugging in pedals which then kinda puts you into "why are you even using a QC?" territory.

 

[Orvillain]

AND THE VIDEO LINKED ISNT EVEN THE QC

Guys, I know we like to rag on NDSP, but in a vacuum, it is a great sounding device with a streamlined and easy to use UI. The company, is abysmal, but the actual unit, is quite good. We've had two trusted fractal users in here try and still have the QC in @deadpool_25 and @Orvillain . We KNOW Orv would absolutely tell us if he thought the QC was trash and Deadpool let go of his FM9 for the QC and last I talked with it, doesn't regret it.

There are a list of things to trash the QC on, can we atleast stick to what makes sense

I like it quite a lot to be honest. I think around here we might've slipped into maybe giving Neural a harder time than is warranted; I don't know about anyone else, but it is kinda becoming a played out joke for me. I think we should turn all of our ire and mirth to Kemper

 

[mbenigni]

lol QC thread has come full circle where the haters are now the defenders!

I was a hater who became a defender before it was cool… back at TOP in the official original thread.

The secret back then (and to a lesser extent to this day) was to hate it even though you’d never actually tried it. Mainly because hating shit makes for better jokes.

I mean really… “product is great but their marketing department sucks”? How does the latter even register at this point?

 

[Orvillain]

I mean really… “product is great but their marketing department sucks”? How does the latter even register at this point?

Just like doing being "sold at" as if I were a baby, that's all.

 

[mbenigni]

I like it quite a lot to be honest. I think around here we might've slipped into maybe giving Neural a harder time than is warranted; I don't know about anyone else, but it is kinda becoming a played out joke for me. I think we should turn all of our ire and mirth to Kemper

So 10 years ago. I was making fun of Kemper before it was cool.

 

[mbenigni]

Just like doing being "sold at" as if I were a baby, that's all.

Is there an extra word or two here? Can’t seem to parse, but admittedly, I’m still working on my first cup of coffee.

 

[Orvillain]

Is there an extra word or two here? Can’t seem to parse, but admittedly, I’m still working on my first cup of coffee.

Stupid fingers.

I meant that I don't like being marketed towards, as if I was an idiot, basically. I also didn't like how they gathered pre-orders for the QC by promising certain things and then taking multiple years to still not deliver them.

 

[mbenigni]

Just like doing being "sold at" as if I were a baby, that's all.

NVM, I follow you now.

I guess my point is: nearly all marketing depts are cheesy AF, and many of them oversell. When I’m done cringing, I RTFM to see what is and isn’t real about the pitch, then I try for myself. I’ve been through that process dozens of times with Roland, et al.

The NDSP experience hasn’t been any different for me. Meanwhile, the QC itself has consistently exceeded my expectations.

 

[mbenigni]

I also didn't like how they gathered pre-orders for the QC by promising certain things and then taking multiple years to still not deliver them.

100% legit. I’ve been fortunate in that those omissions haven’t intersected with my requirements. It comes down to the same thing: when you’re done watching the flashy videos, etc., RTFM carefully. (And always mind the return policy.)

P.S. “requirements” LOL.

 

[GTR37]

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this is actually very funny because its true and I honestly don't know where this ridiculous comparisons charts and graphs and all this scientific measurement came from , Back in the day Marshall was not painstakingly looking through and comparing caps and tubes , hell they threw in whatever they had , that's why there was so much discrepancy in even amps the same lines

Anyway, these Null tests and that test , its really does not matter at the end of the day if your goal is to make music and your inspired then its a great product for you , is there aliasing at 18,000 KHZ maybe , maybe its upsetting to a dog , but the average person is not going to hear that
and definitely not in a mix , with quad tracked guitars