Which would you keep?

Of the given choices, I'd say QC. Outside those it sounds like the FM9 might be best for you. Or possibly QC with VP4?? 🤔

I'm a huge Fractal fan and still got the QC and eventually sold the FM9. And I truly loved the FM9. The primary advantage of the QC was the small form factor and resulting small footprint of the board, especially since I felt the need for the Drop on my FM9 board because of the one-pitch-block limitation. I have to admit the user experience with the QC is also just easier and more fun for me.

I've recently picked up a couple amps (well, one is on its way) and am considering trying QC 7CM with them in stereo. I haven't messed with 4CM on the QC yet. What issues have you had so I can expect/avoid them?
 
Since you have the Axe-Fx III: keep it. It has everything you want and probably keeps it value well.

The form factor isn't really a factor unless you are gigging 5 times a week and really want a floor device.

Pay off debts first, worry about gear details later. Investing in 3 different modeling 'eco systems' doesn't help.
 
What issues have you had so I can expect/avoid them?
The QC is a lot lower signal level than the other units. It is also a lot noisier. It also doesn't give a unity gain signal at the FX sends, so getting additional outboard gear to see your guitar signal 'natively' is nigh on impossible.

It just wasn't designed very well in this respect. As a standalone unit, it is good.
 
I'm definitely leaning towards sticking with Axe3, shifting the QC and Helix on, and getting a FM9 to fill the live effects gap.

That’s pretty much where I’ve landed. The Axe 3 resides on my studio desk, and the FM9 gets hauled out to band rehearsals.
 
I'm definitely leaning towards sticking with Axe3, shifting the QC and Helix on, and getting a FM9 to fill the live effects gap.

Definitely the sensible yet also the sexy option. Go for that. You can always pick up a hx stomp if you really miss any of the Helix effects and I'm sure you've already got Native if you need some sounds for recording.
 
I'm definitely leaning towards sticking with Axe3, shifting the QC and Helix on, and getting a FM9 to fill the live effects gap.

I leave my Axe-FX III in the rack setup to go at home for practice and then keep my FM9 in a road case and use it almost exclusively for rehearsals and playing out. They are a very nice duo and you only have to keep track of how to use one ecosystem of products.
 
Axe FX III.
Helix.
Quad Cortex.

Got 'em all. don't need them all.
Axe FX III - Super capable device, but I use about 20% of its capabilities, about 30% of the time. The rack format is starting to annoy me too, because most of the time when I do use it, I'm using it in tandem with a valve amp.
Helix - I'm really familiar with it, and have been a fangurl since 2016. I've plunged the depth of it though, and I'm no longer happy with the reverbs and most of the delays, and ultimately I'm just kinda bored with it.
Quad Cortex - it is the newest device, and I really like the sound of the amps. The effects are basic. It doesn't work in a bigger rig setup or 4-cable-method very well, and it really is just kind of a desktop only device, or a posers device (I'm half joking there!) and ultimately.. I really don't see it as a good long term investment.

It is 2025. I'm intending on pairing down some gear, paying off some debt, and in general trying to settle down on some trusted and gear I can sit with for the long-term (say, the next 4 years) - I will of course have some dalliances, but some upcoming life changes will mean I won't have much disposable cash for a couple of years, and I will need to really focus on music rather than gear anyway.

But since we chat so much shit here anyway, I thought.. what's one more thread going to hurt?!

I'm leaning to Axe FX III.... or selling the Helix and Quad Cortex, and getting the FM9, and just going all in on Fractal. Keep the AxeIII for studio, FM9 for giggage, sell the FC12, and pay off a bit of credit card from that.

If I had written the above, then I'd be getting rid of the thing I use 20% of, getting rid of the thing I've pretty much used to the max, and getting rid of the useless trinket with nice amps and sod all else that is useful, and I'd be buying an FM9.
 
I'm leaning to Axe FX III.... or selling the Helix and Quad Cortex, and getting the FM9, and just going all in on Fractal. Keep the AxeIII for studio, FM9 for giggage, sell the FC12, and pay off a bit of credit card from that.
It sounds to me like you've answered your own question. Only other scenario you might want to consider is just going all in on the FM9 and sell your AxeFx III. It sounds like you're tired of the rack format and really want a floor unit and I would personally hate having to "keep up with" two units at the same time.
 
I've been in a similar situation when the QC released. I had the FM3, Helix Floor and QC at the same time and extensively compared them back to back.

I ended up keeping the FM3, because I felt it was a mature product, it was more desktop friendly size than the Helix, and best sounding overall. The Axe-Fx 3 is all that too, which is why I bought one used at a reasonable price around FM9 release in the US (several months before its EU release).

In hindsight, I wish I had kept the FM3. Like you, I ended up not using all the capabilities of the Axe-Fx 3. With the gapless switching etc I think it would be more than enough for my needs, apart from the onboard UI.

I like the Helix except for its size. For me crouching down to adjust stuff on the floor regularly is just uncomfortable due to some health issues, and it's too big to use on a desk or stand IMO. HX Stomp is too gimped on onboard user interface.

I really wanted to love the QC. The form factor was great and I liked the user interface and having lots of knobs. At the time I was just unsure about its firmware update cadence, and it turns out I was right as it took them a long time to get the editor out etc. The effects quality was my biggest beef about the unit. It's "fine :rolleyes:" but not awesome.

You can probably see where my progression to liking the Hotone Ampero 2 Stomp comes from. It's basically a cheap QC in HX Stomp form factor now that it can also create captures. Of course, I'm not saying you should buy one because you are unlikely to be happy with its fx quality compared to what you have. I'm just not spending Helix/QC/Fractal money again for current gen products.


Axe FX III - Super capable device, but I use about 20% of its capabilities, about 30% of the time. The rack format is starting to annoy me too, because most of the time when I do use it, I'm using it in tandem with a valve amp.
So here your main issue is form factor and not making good use of it, which are relatively small problems compared to what you list for the others. That puts the Axe-Fx 3 still at the top of your list.

Helix - I'm really familiar with it, and have been a fangurl since 2016. I've plunged the depth of it though, and I'm no longer happy with the reverbs and most of the delays, and ultimately I'm just kinda bored with it.
Being bored with something is not a good reason to swap it, might mean it's just doing its job for you. But not liking the delays and reverbs is a valid reason to get rid of it.

Quad Cortex - it is the newest device, and I really like the sound of the amps. The effects are basic. It doesn't work in a bigger rig setup or 4-cable-method very well, and it really is just kind of a desktop only device, or a posers device (I'm half joking there!) and ultimately.. I really don't see it as a good long term investment.
Sounds like the QC is already close to being out when you list more drawbacks than with the others.

It is 2025. I'm intending on pairing down some gear, paying off some debt, and in general trying to settle down on some trusted and gear I can sit with for the long-term (say, the next 4 years) - I will of course have some dalliances, but some upcoming life changes will mean I won't have much disposable cash for a couple of years, and I will need to really focus on music rather than gear anyway.

But since we chat so much shit here anyway, I thought.. what's one more thread going to hurt?!

I'm leaning to Axe FX III.... or selling the Helix and Quad Cortex, and getting the FM9, and just going all in on Fractal. Keep the AxeIII for studio, FM9 for giggage, sell the FC12, and pay off a bit of credit card from that.
With Fractal pricing being pretty hideous in Europe and used FM9s seem to be very hard to get... Maybe you can sell the FC12 and keep two units: Axe-Fx 3 for the studio, and either Helix or QC for gigs? Then it just comes down to whether Helix's better footswitching is worth its big size over the QC's more portable form factor. Or maybe you can use your pedals for gigs instead.

I think it's much easier to compromise on fx quality for gig uses where "solid but unremarkable" is alright when you have multiple instruments blaring around you at loud volume.
 
I'm definitely leaning towards sticking with Axe3, shifting the QC and Helix on, and getting a FM9 to fill the live effects gap.

This is where I'd lean, as well. Makes the most sense in the given scenario/question.

However, I've seen you mention more than once that Fractal devices slow you down creatively, at times.
 
This is where I'd lean, as well. Makes the most sense in the given scenario/question.

However, I've seen you mention more than once that Fractal devices slow you down creatively, at times.
Yep. Kind of a tough call. If you can find one sort of "it works, even if not ideal" backup (which sounds like the Plethora sort of fits that bill) and then move to an FM9 by offing the QC and Helix.
 
You and I are so similar here...

I'm planning to downsize to an FM9 and then have an HX Stomp and/or Kemper Player on the side for fun.
 
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