NDSP Quad Cortex
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namathan_zirwir
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It works great for bass. Tony Levin has been using one for awhile..
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that's going to be the same with every touch screen it can happens or a phone if you have sweaty fingers , its like typing sometimes you hit the r next to the t
In general though MI touchscreens seem to be a little less sensitive than phone grade screens but the are also about 3 times bigger
personally from what I have seen , think the Hotones probably the best ones out at the moment
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It probably is but I don’t think any MI touchscreen is going to be a sensitive as an iPhone or galaxy maybe next Gen but I have not seen it yet
That’s not to say that they are not fine at the moment
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I mean, clearly not. Unless you're happy to settle for bullshit. Which is your call.
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This tigga didn't have sweaty fingers. He had the fingers of a 9 year old.
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The QC screen was not calibrated as good as it could be in the first 7 months ( if I remember right ) But we got an update, that made the QC screen A LOT better to use, A LOT.
My new phone ( 1700 bucks ) a few times a day do not recognize my finger to unlock ( it bugs me) and I have to press a few times. Good thing I have face unlockI, might have too dry hands ? or..
I play Frisbee Golf, and I trow a lot of discs everyday, with my right hand, and I think it rubs the skin of my finger, over time
The same thing can happen on my QC.. if I am moving too quick, and I dont aim at the right spot to press. But it is good, I would say ( for rock and roll )
My new phone ( 1700 bucks ) a few times a day do not recognize my finger to unlock ( it bugs me) and I have to press a few times. Good thing I have face unlockI, might have too dry hands ? or..
I play Frisbee Golf, and I trow a lot of discs everyday, with my right hand, and I think it rubs the skin of my finger, over time
The same thing can happen on my QC.. if I am moving too quick, and I dont aim at the right spot to press. But it is good, I would say ( for rock and roll )
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That video is 2 weeks old.
The touchscreen is hugely overrated. It isn't as good as a phone, or an iPad. It isn't even as good as an MPC, or a Waldorf Iridium.
The shittiness of the screen was a huge let down when I owned one. I was trying to convince myself that getting another QC would be worthwhile yesterday. I actually don't have a problem with the tones; loads of great sounds out there coming from the QC. The newer reverbs (which I never had when I had it) sound good too, as do the additional delays that were added (again, I never had those) - but the workflow and the annoying build quality issues... I just don't think I can do it. It's too much money to spend on a bullshit experience.
And again; I'm not just going on Youtube videos. I'm also going on my personal experience from when I owned the unit.
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I'm still fine with the QC screen. I think it worked well enough at release and only needed bigger touch targets for some elements.
It's worth remembering that guitarists have fingers that are calloused af which can also have an effect.
That said, I agree with this video. It would be useful to be able to remap those preset up/down buttons to something more useful, like Gig view toggle or maybe some preset selector view.
I'd love to see that sort of internal control on other modelers too, like why can't I use a Fractal FC to go directly to some effect's particular page and back? Helix at least has that pedal edit mode that kinda works for this sort of thing.
It's worth remembering that guitarists have fingers that are calloused af which can also have an effect.
That said, I agree with this video. It would be useful to be able to remap those preset up/down buttons to something more useful, like Gig view toggle or maybe some preset selector view.
I'd love to see that sort of internal control on other modelers too, like why can't I use a Fractal FC to go directly to some effect's particular page and back? Helix at least has that pedal edit mode that kinda works for this sort of thing.
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You may have missed it in your fervour to disagree with me, but I did own one. When it first came out, but yes to be fair, there's been 3 years since then.
It isn't always a case of touch targets. The MCU in these units has to process a lot of control data, and quite often there can be throttling that means interactions with the TUI result in missed events.
Personally, from my own experience, at launch it didn't work well enough. Maybe that is different 3 years later, but I doubt it. When your touchscreen is the primary interface for 90% of the user interaction, then it needs to be tip top. No ifs and no buts. "good enough" is simply not good enough.
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I think we need to start by challenging this precept that *any* touchscreen is perfect. My iPad, and the iPhone I’m typing on right now, miss touch events all the time.
The QC hardware is fine. There are just too many (meaning: more than zero) states where 2 touches are required - e.g. one to close a modal editing pop up, and one to fire the control visible behind it.
P.S. I can’t find that meme of the toddler falling on her arms in exasperation, but you know the one. Please insert.
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Which, of course, the QC also has.
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And my comments are all borne from frustration and mistrust, more or less. I was genuinely thinking about trying a QC again. Half my brain thinks that I could give it a go as an effects platform like I tried when I had it:
In theory, this would've been a great setup. Thinking back, the problems I had:
- Noise floor issues with external pedals and 4-cable method.
- Getting the correct levels through the pedals without adding noise seemed impossible; although I never tried the TRS cable thing that someone advised me to do.
- Sending midi commands in scene mode would also send the same ones in stomp mode. I don't know if they ever fixed that??
- Touchscreen was too unresponsive. I would regularly experience tapping on the screen would not register an event.
- Ground loop noises when combining with other gear. Resolvable by using a proper power supply, iirc.
The other half of my brain just thinks... well... they've not fixed any of this stuff, it is probably going to be exactly the same experience.
In theory, this would've been a great setup. Thinking back, the problems I had:
- Noise floor issues with external pedals and 4-cable method.
- Getting the correct levels through the pedals without adding noise seemed impossible; although I never tried the TRS cable thing that someone advised me to do.
- Sending midi commands in scene mode would also send the same ones in stomp mode. I don't know if they ever fixed that??
- Touchscreen was too unresponsive. I would regularly experience tapping on the screen would not register an event.
- Ground loop noises when combining with other gear. Resolvable by using a proper power supply, iirc.
The other half of my brain just thinks... well... they've not fixed any of this stuff, it is probably going to be exactly the same experience.
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OMG I had to touch the screen twice. Such bullshit! This is fine:
Do you want some pasta sauce with that straw??
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I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. Your position seemed to be that “less than perfect” was unacceptable. My point is that perfect or otherwise, it is a significant improvement over the competition in many ways. (And it’s ironic to hear people complain about less than perfect UI after many in the same camp implied it was lazy, spoiled, etc. to suggest improvements in competitors’ UIs.)
I’m not trying to reduce this to a big pissing contest, either. I think a lot of points in your preceding post re: noise floor, etc. are legitimate in some configurations.
