NDSP Quad Cortex

[2dor]

Soo...I wonder if what they resorted to was mapping the dials of the older plugins to something like a MIDI box which maps pots to rottary dials then had TINA have a go at them to get the X versions.

 

[Stone]

Archetype TINA confirmed

who the fuck is Tina anyways ?

 

[metropolis_4]

Watched without audio and thought I must have missed something… first they show a robot for turning knobs on an amp to somehow model it faster, and then they show it hooked up to virtual amps?

Watched again with audio… nope, I didn’t miss anything.

I’m confused

 

[SeeD]

Well, if this works good for modeling plug-ins, then get another one for the QC crowd. I`ve been waiting 1 year without a new amp model haha!

 

[Jynx]

You can read about it here.

Neural DSP Technologies Introduces TINA - Robotics Meets Machine Learning in the Guitar Universe, the Key to Even More Precise Amplifier Modeling

TINA makes Quad Cortex plugin compatibility a reality, marking a groundbreaking leap in the symbiosis between amp modeling hardware and software.

neuraldsp.com

 

[Whizzinby]

“Able to model with unbelievable precision and speed”

Haven’t released a native amp model in a year…

Oh, Neural

 

[2dor]

Watched without audio and thought I must have missed something… first they show a robot for turning knobs on an amp to somehow model it faster, and then they show it hooked up to virtual amps?

Watched again with audio… nope, I didn’t miss anything.

I’m confused

They have a patent out for a robot that turns dials so that they can model amps faster.

I suspect since some of their older plugins were done differently, they must have leveraged TINA to twist dials (with something like the Behringer X Touch) in their older ampsims (Fortin Nameless, NTS maybe etc) to get the X versions out.

 

[Lysander]

Ugh, this almost looks like an Elon Musk robot announcement.

“We’re extremely proud to be one of the first companies to make native compatibility between guitar hardware and software a reality with CorOS 3.0.0,” concludes Dan Davies, Chief Marketing Officer at Neural DSP Technologies. “By utilizing TINA, our secret weapon, users experience an unparalleled level of sound authenticity throughout our product range. This development makes our software more capable than ever before, and we look forward to continuing to build on this framework.”

I don't understand why they weren't unable to port existing plugin code to the QC without a robot getting involved but, hey, DSPs are hard.

 

[metropolis_4]

I’m disappointed to see they still haven’t done anything to bring footswitching capabilities into this decade

“Hybrid” mode was cool when everyone else did it 10 years ago

 

[2dor]

Ugh, this almost looks like an Elon Musk robot announcement.

“We’re extremely proud to be one of the first companies to make native compatibility between guitar hardware and software a reality with CorOS 3.0.0,” concludes Dan Davies, Chief Marketing Officer at Neural DSP Technologies. “By utilizing TINA, our secret weapon, users experience an unparalleled level of sound authenticity throughout our product range. This development makes our software more capable than ever before, and we look forward to continuing to build on this framework.”

I don't understand why they weren't unable to port existing plugin code to the QC without a robot getting involved but, hey, DSPs are hard.

IIRC the way they did the Nameless and NTS was component-based (ish). They probed into the amp and did some component modelling; probably why the resource usage of those was high etc. Looks like they waited until TINA was up and running and used it to X the older plugins.

 

[Lysander]

IIRC the way they did the Nameless and NTS was component-based (ish). They probed into the amp and did some component modelling; probably why the performance of was high etc. Looks like they waited until TINA was up and running and used it to X the older plugins.

I get that but, at the end of the day, software is software: you can port it over. I understand that migrating CPU code to DSP is not easy, mind you, but hey, they've been at this for 3+ years now.

Having a bot turning knobs is useful if you plan to model new real-life amps, and i don't quite see how that's related to CorOS 3.0.0.

 

[metropolis_4]

That still doesn’t make sense to me…

Why was a robot that turns knobs what makes porting software plugins a reality?

This sounds like a bunch of marketing speak to me

 

[mikah912]

They have a patent out for a robot that turns dials so that they can model amps faster.

I suspect since some of their older plugins were done differently, they must have leveraged TINA to twist dials (with something like the Behringer X Touch) in their older ampsims (Fortin Nameless, NTS maybe etc) to get the X versions out.

But....these are virtual knobs? How is a physical robot going to help?

 

[GTR37]

The cripsness of the sound in that demo sounded good. The chorus and phaser sounded godawful.

if you are talking about John, ya he uses way too much , I don't generally care for his tone although his 2203 tone is good , but Rabea to me sounds much much better , maybe it the guitar ?

 

[Lysander]

This sounds like a bunch of marketing speak to me

It is. Hats off thou, NDSP are really good at this game.

 

[Jynx]

I've had it confirmed the robot is real.

 

[mikah912]

It is. Hats off thou, NDSP are really good at this game.

Are they, tho? On the day when we're supposed to be marveling at 3.0.0., we now have the distraction of a.nonsensical robot that twists knobs of things that don't exist in the real world?!?

Seems ill-timed.

 

[GTR37]

As I understood it…it can mix in whatever point in your signal flow you select. I assume any point in the signal flow that’s before the spot you insert the blend…and hopefully other signal paths as well. I can imagine using it to morph from one amp to another…or to morph from different efx with an expression pedal.

I never though about that use with expression pedals to blend signals like a clean and dirty amp but that true I guess you could

 

[Lysander]

I've had it confirmed the robot is real.

I have no reason to doubt that, it's a very valid engineering approach. Fractal also built their own robot to model DynaCabs.

I just don't see what this has to do with plugins being ported...

 

[Jynx]

I think for the trailer the robot is real, as in not an animation, and the amps are just plasticy mock-ups for the trailer. The Gojira especially looks like a sticker stuck over a box.