Namm 2025 predictions

Gazing into my crystal lettuce ball:

MXR's new Rockman pedal takes NAMM by storm and the entire music industry starts pumping out 80's tunes...

Guitarists begin to woodshed their chops and raise the bar on a level not seen since said 80's...

RATT, Dokken, Whitesnake, Badlands, Blue Murder, Journey, good Metallica etc all regroup and make new albums...

Michael Jackson & Eddie Van Halen collaborate in heaven and send a thumbdrive down to earth with the sequel to "Beat It"; Ed's new solo melts everyone's faces...

Weird Al finally goes Diamond status (10x Platinum) on his next album...

Hear 'n' Aid 2 makes an album that generates $2 billion in aid and has 20x the note density of the first...

...and World Peace® is finally achieved.
 
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You're kind of going in two different directions here. :)

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As far as sending hexaphonic signals from the guitar to an outboard processor... Roland's already doing so with a number of their products. And they always seem so close to getting it right. What they did with serializing hex over 1/4" TRS is great... if only …

. (Line 6 is probably quite aware of this, and looking skeptically at the potential profitability of a 3rd generation of Variax.)
You sort of stumbled onto my point.
Short version I’m trying to imagine a common need to tie the goals of two otherwise separate entities.


Line 6 wants standard cable signal to do more Variax but is aware that it isn’t really going to be profitable…they need a bigger market share to justify building/advancing more Variax product.

Boss has a good foundation for achieving similar-to-Variax results but does the hexophonic processing and also goes the pitch to midi route as well…but Boss moves very slow.

However, if If Line 6 saw value in introducing hex processing to their next ‘Variax’ effort by adopting the Serial GK functionality it would mean that ‘Line 6 drop in product’ I mentioned could be compatible with Boss devices as well as other hex processing devices/ software. Gives their efforts more value, maybe enough that, instead of dying, the ‘Variax project’ lives on in a new form.
And Boss might be willing to align their interests with Line 6 if only to encourage their GK systems to be the new standard. All they have to do is not fight the compatibility aspect.

That would result in a healthy form of competition as well as advancing and speeding up the progress of the genre as a whole.

An expansion to the niche customer base for both companies (and others) which compounds the incentive for everyone.
For example if the serial hexophonic became a standard like midi is don’t you think Electro Harmonix would have some new ideas? Suddenly ElectroHarmonix boxes show up with Serial ‘GK’ compatibility? Others follow?
Do you think Cliff Chase can figure out some useful adaptations of hex processing?
 
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You sort of stumbled onto my point.
Short version I’m trying to imagine a common need to tie the goals of two otherwise separate entities.


Line 6 wants standard cable signal to do more Variax but is aware that it isn’t really going to be profitable…they need a bigger market share to justify building/advancing more Variax product.

Boss has a good foundation for achieving similar-to-Variax results but does the hexophonic processing and also goes the pitch to midi route as well…but Boss moves very slow.

However, if If Line 6 saw value in introducing hex processing to their next ‘Variax’ effort by adopting the Serial GK functionality it would mean that ‘Line 6 drop in product’ I mentioned could be compatible with Boss devices as well as other hex processing devices/ software. Gives their efforts more value, maybe enough that, instead of dying, the ‘Variax project’ lives on in a new form.
And Boss might be willing to align their interests with Line 6 if only to encourage their GK systems to be the new standard. All they have to do is not fight the compatibility aspect.

That would result in a healthy form of competition as well as advancing and speeding up the progress of the genre as a whole.

An expansion to the niche customer base for both companies (and others) which compounds the incentive for everyone.
For example if the serial hexophonic became a standard like midi is don’t you think Electro Harmonix would have some new ideas? Suddenly ElectroHarmonix boxes show up with Serial ‘GK’ compatibility? Others follow?
Do you think Cliff Chase can figure out some useful adaptations of hex processing?
I love all of these ideas! But (there's always a but LOL) many guitarists will still prefer an instrument that's self contained over a "system" that includes a big external processor. And while standards are good for ensuring compatibility, they can also make product differentiation difficult for any given vendor. Take the example at hand: what is Line 6's place in all of this, when Boss already makes products to fill all of these niches?

That said, I'd love to see external processing components made more modular and significantly smaller as a compromise. Imagine for instance, one stompbox-sized enclosure that handles (very high quality) hexaphonic detune and alternate tuning duty. Another that handles (very fast, stable) hex to MIDI. Another that handles hexaphonic instrument modeling, and so on. Leave it to the end user to choose MIDI sound modules where needed. This might be an easier sell to a guitarist who doesn't need a monolithic solution that does all of these things. (The downside here is cost: you have to design "simpler" products to a price point, but each of them will likely contain redundant, expensive DSP components.)
 
I honestly don’t know about Namm the fires out there are bad very bad and within 25 miles
The smoke is blowing for miles
Praying for all that live there including out Gear page bros
Stay safe
Scary situation for sure
That's a good point. I wonder if they'll call it off due to that.
 


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As far as sending hexaphonic signals from the guitar to an outboard processor... Roland's already doing so with a number of their products. And they always seem so close to getting it right. What they did with serializing hex over 1/4" TRS is great... if only they'd managed to squeeze audio (mag pickups) over that same line... and if only they hadn't dumbed down the switching on the (still ugly) guitar wart. If they find just a little more bandwidth, miniaturize and/or dress up the pickup interface so it either disappears or adds value, and then introduce the next gen of GP10 or whatever... they're essentially already there. (Line 6 is probably quite aware of this, and looking skeptically at the potential profitability of a 3rd generation of Variax.)

I think all this technology could already be working much more elegantly. I mean, there's multichannel audio interfaces sending everything through a single USB connection with minimal latency already (not talking about the actual guitar processing here, just what's needed to route your signals to and inside, say, an 8 I/O interface). Hence, any standard USB cable would already do. With the advance of also supplying bus power.
Also, if you expanded that idea, for standalone operation, the interface and processing themselves could already sit in the guitar (as is the case with the Variaxes), so in case you wanted, you could as well use your guitar as an audio interface (the Mooer GTRS guitars are already doing it that way). Just add a laptop to expand your sounds. And maybe an additional audio breakout box should you not want to run mutliple cables from your guitar. Such a breakout box could also double serve as a controller input module, allowing you to connect all required switches and EXP pedals.
Latency shouldn't be an issue, either, given that you can, say, buy a lowly Motu M-series interface delivering 3.5ms of RTL.

Such an approach would combine all options and allow you to do incredible things.
I have once played through a setup that was splitting a HEX pickup into 6 discrete signals (there's been a handful of breakout boxes years ago already, no idea about what exists today), all then running into an RME interface, ready to be processed individually - and if you ever played through something like a poly distortion (maybe even enhanced with a dedicated filter per string), you instantly know that you possibly don't even need much "real" synthesis anymore as the options are staggering already.
Doing all this with what is a standard computer is a fantastic thing anyway as you could simply use each and every plugin there is for further processing.

In the end, there'd be plenty of ways to realize things, just that there seem to be very little incentives for companies to actually do it. And given the niche character of any of these units (regardless whether it's Variaxes, SY-300/1000 units, VG devices and what not, let alone MIDI guitar setups), I have some strong doubts we will ever see any truly serious attempts at this technology.
I mean, the last time I've seen anyone using any kind of Variax or GK equipped guitar is so far away I can't even remember it anymore.
There's not even many SYs in the wild - and those don't even require a modified guitar, so if all this stuff was popular among guitar players in general, we should see much more of these things on pedalboards.

I already said so quite often: Guitar players seem to be the most conservative bunch of folks when it comes to exploring new sound options. Heck, even bassists and drummers are more innovative.
 
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pretty boring lineup
I was told by someone at Ibanez that this is only part of the new lineup. There will be more stuff probably at NAMM or in a couple of months’ time. They’ve been doing staggered monthly releases for the last couple of years anyway. The early-January catalogue for the year hasn’t been a thing since 2022.
 
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