Just bought a Fryette LX. Thanks Whizz!

[ejecta]

Update. See hyperbolic thread from yesterday or Saturday or whentfever.

LX at home is godlike. LX at the gig was not godlike. Not near loud enough for a 100 watt amp with the FM at least. 2 space rack is fine but it kind of hangs in the balance as well given it's here because I thought the LX would peel paint and it really doesn't. With the FM at least.

I am at a crossroads. I could go Synergy and hope that it somehow operates at a much louder level than the FM does. Or I could dump it and stick with the Stealth. Which isn't loud enough either with the FM.

I am running the output levels at 0 to where it just hits the red threshold but not louder. I could bump it up a few db into the occasional red but that seems like not a good idea. Good amount of $ to be tied up in something.

The LX wasn’t loud enough? wow. Never ran into that.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Audience at JT's gig when the "not loud enough" guitrumpets come thundering through 100 watts of fryette power

For real though that's a bummer, seems odd that its not giving up the goods

 

[FuzzyAce]

Audience at JT's gig when the "not loud enough" guitrumpets come thundering through 100 watts of fryette power

 

[ejecta]

I agree with other posters that maybe it’s a problem with the unit? Anyway my PS100 and the LX can peal paint no problem. So I ditto either levels from Fractal being too low or something not right with the unit.

 

[la szum]

Yeah. I don't mean to be a party-pooper on it either as I really like the idea of it and at home it's devastating in the jam room. But the cheapie in me says "ehhh; not sure I can keep at it if it isn't going to do the trick".

I get it. Lots of $$ to tie up in something that only woorks for you in one setting.

Where you running it bridged? Stereo? Still curious about your output config
on the FM3, too.

But yeah, regardless of all of that. You have a Stealth that does/doesn't do the same
thing. So, kind of a what's the point scenario, it seems.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I get it. Lots of $$ to tie up in something that only woorks for you in one setting.

Where you running it bridged? Stereo? Still curious about your output config
on the FM3, too.

But yeah, regardless of all of that. You have a Stealth that does/doesn't do the same
thing. So, kind of a what's the point scenario, it seems.

Bridged mono. +4 out, level meter barely hitting red and output knob around 80%ish?

 

[MTB1973]

What band do you play in? Sunn O)))?

 

[la szum]

Bridged mono. +4 out, level meter barely hitting red and output knob around 80%ish?

Whoa! WTF????

Where was your volume on the FM3 Output 1 and 2 knobs?

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

You haven't lived until you've felt the Careless Whisper sax solo played on a guitar-synth through a 4x12 at 151dB.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Whoa! WTF????

Where was your volume on the FM3 Output 1 and 2 knobs?

Between 75-80% It's gotta be either the LX has an issue or I am gain staging my FM3 preset all wrong. Like I said; the level meter at the output is barely every giving up the initial glimpse of red.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

Bridged mono. +4 out, level meter barely hitting red and output knob around 80%ish?

Not gonna lie, this sounds like an impedance issue....right?

Like when you run 16 ohm load on a 8 ohm tap.....it halves the wattage...just an idea?

Bad OT?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Not gonna lie, this sounds like an impedance issue....right?

Like when you run 16 ohm load on a 8 ohm tap.....it halves the wattage...just an idea?

2 8 ohm speakers running in parallel at 4 ohms. That's how I have it set on the LX.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

2 8 ohm speakers running in parallel at 4 ohms. That's how I have it set on the LX.

Just trying to help you troubleshoot....sorry...ill retreat.

 

[jellodog]

@JiveTurkey Then the power or phase inverter tubes are suspect, perhaps?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Just trying to help you troubleshoot....sorry...ill retreat.

No apologies necessary. Valid train of thought.

 

[la szum]

Between 75-80% It's gotta be either the LX has an issue or I am gain staging my FM3 preset all wrong. Like I said; the level meter at the output is barely every giving up the initial glimpse of red.

Yeah. Weird.

Unless you guys have an absolute bone/soul-crushing stage volume it makes no sense
that you wouldn't be able to hear yourself.

But you say a similar sort of thing is happening with the FM3/Stealth pairing, too??

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

@JiveTurkey Then the power or phase inverter tubes are suspect, perhaps?

I would think a bad tube would lead to a much bigger let down than "It doesn't QUITE have the juice to keep up with my other guitarists gig volume". But what do I know.

 

[jellodog]

I would think a bad tube would lead to a much bigger let down than "It doesn't QUITE have the juice to keep up with my other guitarists gig volume". But what do I know.

Power tubes can go "slowly" and not just "all at once". And this amp has phase inverters too.

But yes, I'm clutching at straws. Don't really have enough information, obviously.

 

[jellodog]

Another thing would be to check the +4 output of the Axe-Fx III vs the same patch and +4 output from the FM3 - just to make sure that the output of the FM3 is optimal.

Assuming you still have the AF3, @JiveTurkey ?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Yeah. Weird.

Unless you guys have an absolute bone/soul-crushing stage volume it makes no sense
that you wouldn't be able to hear yourself.

But you say a similar sort of thing is happening with the FM3/Stealth pairing, too??

The FM and the Fender FR are in that same boat. Not quite loud enough in a band mix. It's probably me giving too much credence to the level meter in the FM. Ugh.