Except that no one does that. Lots of room between zero and 10. Google "master volume"
Personal experience would suggest that a very large contingent do think that Lynyrd Sabbath is what they are after. Apparently all the people with a general understanding of guitar cabinets and volume controls are on this forum.
Opposite experience for me. The only place I hear these crazy hyperboles is on the internet.
Upper Midwest.
I’ve been to great sounding shows with lots of amps, too. Big room, usually more cabs at moderate volumes so there’s a lot of air moving but not necessarily insane volume. And I’ve worked a lot of doom shows in small rooms where the band has no concept of anything other than insanely loud to the point of not even hearing the drums or the PA. Makes sense when you’re Jucifer and the nobody even knows the songs, they just know they’re bringing 700 speakers with them.And people can dunk on doom all they want, but ya know what? Somehow every doom type show I’ve ever attended has sounded not only fucking awesome but actually spectacular even with full stacks and cranked NMV amps. I guess having sound guys that aren’t incompetent whiny bitches does wonders
Again, if the guitars and drums are loud on stage, the vocal mics have no way of making the vocals louder than the music. Guitars and drums run through vocal mics with reverb and/or delay sound like crap out front. FYI, you don't have to be on 10 for it too be TOO LOUD. Insinuating that mixing with high stage volume is a GOOD thing is completely ludicrous. FULL STOP.
See above. Too loud is too loud. Doesn't matter where the volume knob is.
That's just BS. "Except that no one does that". You can't possibly be serious. Google "Band stage volume too loud". Let me know if anything is unclear in what you find.
Definitely this.
Pretty much none (rock/metal shows) if the majority of members are under 50. That’s not a dig, that’s just what I’ve seen. The guys that have been doing it since the early 90’s or earlier are about 50/50. Even quite a few “big amp” bands are using IEM on stage and I’ve seen more than a few that have “secret” Kemper/AxeFX racks behind their stacks and are running DI to FOH instead of mic’ing the cabs.
Lots.
Most people I've played with over the last 20 years are around my age, and I'm only 40. Nearly everyone in my scene is younger than 50.
I’m in the same age bracket, similar genres and it’s quite different around here. But I’d say 85% of the bands with IEM racks aren’t slowing anything down because they’re all plugging in to one place and handing FOH a split snake and then playing after line check because they’re not checking monitors or anything else. Pretty rare to see a band bring all that stuff and not be prepared to use it professionally.
Maybe the knowledge is filtering down from your shit heap mega churches, I don't know. But I can tell you over here at the small to mid level, most bands don't know their arse from their elbow.
I don't need to google about playing live. I've been playing live for a long time. From local venues to large venues opening for national acts like Extreme, Kings X and many others..(Nuno and Ty don't use IEMs btw, I guess you know tone/mix better than them too?).
A person doesn’t need crazy volume to achieve that, and if you’re setting up to where you can still hear the kick and toms on stage with your amps you’re definitely not in the “super crazy loud” group for sure. I can’t say I’ve been to a non-local festival where I could even tell what the stage sounded like or had any effect on FOH.
I don't think anyone here has ever defended crazy volume. Maybe one guy. But generally speaking, what I said is exactly what people have been avocado-ing for.
Nice! Ever hear of, or better yet, see, Nuno & Gary's brother's band? Can't remember their name, but they opened for Extreme at Hammerjacks a long time ago, and they were killer! Gary's brother played a red Les Paul, and all their material was rockin'! I was really digging them.
yes, Flesh. The brothers are Markus (Gary's brother guitar) and Paulo(Nuno's brother, singer). I know them both, I wouldn't say we're friends but just from gigging around the East Coast... we played a few shows together back in the day. Haven't heard or seen them in a long time. I wonder what they're up to now, both of them are great musicians.
