Is there anything inside the Quad Cortex that they didn't steal from someone else?
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Where are the personal insults? I see some generalized assumptions (that given your at-best non-sequitur response, seem fairly supported by fact). But he's not the one calling a specific individual weak minded...
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Do you want to take your answer here or in the pm where you asked?
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Honestly, I don't really care either way
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I’ll respond here in that case.Honestly, I don't really care either way
I consider post #113 as being framed up in the form of a personal insult.
I’m not saying I didn’t level any afterwards.
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In a vacuum, I'd agree. But there are two major nuances that many keep missing:
- Multieffects aren't like the smartphone industry. There are literally hundreds of ways to implement functionality, DSP allocation, workflow, UI, and GUI in multieffects; we know because we've designed them during our lengthy iteration process, most of which were much farther from where Helix landed than one particular product happens to be. In fact, the only possible way they could've made dozens of their design decisions were if the Product Owner repeatedly dictated: "I dunno, just copy how Line 6 did it." And what's odd is that all the things they copied were rarely the ideal solution, as we've come up with numerous better ways to do them since 2015. So it's far more lazy (and a bit slimy) opportunism than it is commoditization of multieffects design. Of course, being lazy (and a bit slimy) isn't a crime. However...
- ...Feigning credit for things one's copied is straight weaksauce. Other companies have blatantly xeroxed big chunks of our work before too, but they weren't brazen enough to boast about how superior "their" work is.
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Mod Drew- the tone of the thread is cool like this, let’s not get it back up to where it was a couple hours ago.
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That kid does look obnoxious. In Boston he would be known as a ‘ya dood’
Watch your pints or I’ll slap you so hard you’ll wake up playing right handed.
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He was a British comedy character called 'Devvo' that we all used to watch in the mid 2000's.That kid does look obnoxious. In Boston he would be known as a ‘ya dood’
Turns out, he was a fucking primary school teacher!!!
He got fired when everyone found out:
Primary teacher sacked after being outed as foul-mouthed YouTube rapper MC Devvo
A PRIMARY school teacher was fired after bosses discovered he had a secret double life as a foul-mouthed rapper whose hits include “F**k ‘Em Young”. Christian Webb became an internet sensation with…
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Straight up fired for satire!! Fuckin' modern Britain...
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ahahahahahaahahaha!!
Sascha Franck
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For the users, it most definitely is, at least to some extent.
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It's kinda... I dunno... problem identification scales right... so when I owned the unit, the fact that I couldn't have huge patches with tons of reverbs and delays, EVEN THOUGH that is what was promised in the marketing.... really disappointed me.
Then they fixed it. So I was no longer disappointed.
But then I started doing other things, like putting other pedals into the loops... and dealing with extra noise, and signal loss....
Then I used it in the studio for a rehearsal in 4-cm with my amp... wtf... there's a ground loop I can't get rid of... even when I use an isolator transformer to lift the ground....
Then I tried to use it for midi control of a valve amp, the same way I can a helix by changing the channels when switching scenes.... and it was just pitiful....
Then they released the looper update, and it had nothing in there of interest for me.... and I just tuned out.
You can see that any one of these by itself, probably could've dealt with... but the package as a whole..... it just left soooooo much to be desired.... and my worry is that they'll either never fix any of it, or by the time they do, there will be better stuff on the market and they will have missed the boat.
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No idea why you quoted me, but anyway: That was pretty much why I never got hooked. For different reasons than most people, but still.
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Coz I'm stalking you.
Sascha Franck
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Oh, making me feel all warm and cozy!
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Not sure what this means.
I can count many dozens of things that were specifically lifted from Helix that have nothing to do with rounded squares and grids, yet any time someone mentions shameless copying, contrarians fall back onto... rounded squares and grids. It's like when B€#®!n&€® unveiled their MonoPoly (not Mono/Poly! See, it's different, there's no slash!) and any critique was met with "Ohhhh, they both have keys and knobs. Big deal."
It's not about the keys and knobs. It's not about the rounded squares and grids. It's the many dozens of other things that collectively could never have organically manifested themselves without the active, blatant direction of "just copy how
Basically, it's Diet B€#®!n&€®.
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btw, hmm didn't realize...
Well, it's really all pretty much the same. Number of blocks in serial/parallel order. And what else should/could you do? Just makes sense this way.
And when you look at the various Boss GTs, it's almost the same as well (just that they don't allow for as much parallel paths).
Seriously, apart from possibly using some arabic or asian nomenclature (signal flow from right to left), that's just the best way to represent a signal flow on a screen. Squares (now colored) feeding each other. There's hardly any better way to do this from a logical POV. Adding icons is just the next logical step. And making it look like icons on a smartphone is making people feel all familiar with the design, too.
