Helix Talk

[norminal]

Helix talk has been awfully quiet lately and not only here.

I think we need a nice big firmware update to get things going again.

 

[holoholo]

In case anyone cared what HX stomp internals looked like:

 

[molul]

There's no digital tech in the FR12, so I don't think this sort of product really sits within Line 6's wheelhouse.

Well, you know, it's a product people using modelers is buying from other brands. They could get part of that market.

Digital igloo recently said they were working on many things, some of them "tangentially related" to Helix family. An FR cab would fit that description.

 

[ian_dissonance]

I had a PC 112 for some time, and it sounded great. But yeah, it's simply too expensive to buy new IMHO.

Quite expensive when compared to “decent” powered wedges from EV or Yamaha.

There's no digital tech in the FR12, so I don't think this sort of product really sits within Line 6's wheelhouse.

They were so close with the FR Spider amps, but they somehow managed to avoid allowing any real stereo input connection on the combos (no, a mini headphone jack doesn’t count) to allow them to work that way. Seemed pretty intentional to build them that way.

 

[the-trooper]

I think we need a nice big firmware update to get things going again.

If I'm not mistaken DI said it's going to be a small one.
"The last update"?

 

[Sascha Franck]

There's no digital tech in the FR12

Of course there is, it's a class D amp.

 

[molul]

If I'm not mistaken DI said it's going to be a small one.
"The last update"?

Not the last update for sure.

 

[the-trooper]

Not the last update for sure.

"The penultimate update"?

Yup, I googled that word.

 

[molul]

"The penultimate update"?

Yup, I googled that word.

Lol. I hope they reach 4.0. DI once said something like there were some features that would be added to Helix "when it makes sense" or something like that. I think they can still come with surprises.

 

[norminal]

Flux for Helix or GTFO.

 

[the-trooper]

Flux for Helix or GTFO.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Settings for Deluxe Phase to sound like a real MXR Phase 90 Script Logo;
The 'Script Mod Phase' model is so off it makes me sad.

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There is a high pass filter at around 100Hz in the Deluxe Phaser model, so it doesn't throb as hard as the real Phase 90 but it's the closest I got with the Helix with the available options.

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Just got back from holiday today and had a go with this tonight. It sounds great in front of my jvm. Easily the best phaser sounds I've have from the hx stomp. Thanks man.

 

[Lysander]

Of course there is, it's a class D amp.

Class D doesn't mean "digital". It amplifies an analog signal just as any other amp topology would.

 

[Lysander]

Flux for Helix or GTFO.

Seriously. I've been salivating at that feature ever since i saw those HX One launch videos.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Sidechained noise gate!

 

[burningyen]

I don't have this pedal so I can't compare, but if it works for you that's all that matters.

I've found both the Script and the Pebble to be usable but ho-hum. Gigging with Floyd and Radiohead tribute bands, I make heavy use of both models and have long suspected they don't quite live up to the originals. Your Script analysis makes me think I'm not crazy, so for that I'm grateful!

 

[Sascha Franck]

Class D doesn't mean "digital". It amplifies an analog signal just as any other amp topology would.

Ok, my bad - but isn't it DSP controlled as most "FRFR" cabs?

 

[Vic Winters]

How can you not have the most recognizable pedal ever made?

 

[Lysander]

Ok, my bad - but isn't it DSP controlled as most ""FRFR"" cabs?

Nop. Class D means the output is a (very fast) on/off switch instead of a linear gain stage. There's no DSP involved; switching is just modulated based an analog input. This also happens to be very very efficient, and well suited for power amps.

There are a few amp topologies which take a digital input directly, but I don't think I've ever seen these used in guitar gear.

 

[ragingplatypi]

I revive my excitement for the Helix by building a new patch around an amp I’ve ignored. This last weekend it was the WhoWatt. I even used the legacy cabinet. Sounds great.