Fractal Talk

[DLC86]

Yes, as I said above, a midi loopback cable goes from the midi out port to the midi in port. This allows you to use the CS Midi window to have a control switch send any CC# you choose, to any block you choose(as long as that block is listed in the midi\remote set up screen), no matter what scene or preset you might be on.

What I meant by "per-preset" is that you can't have different "groups" of blocks controlled by that CS on a per preset basis. Or it can be done somehow? I've never investigated this stuff

 

[Rock Chalk]

True... Although there are only 6 Control Switches, so that's a bit limiting.

The CS Midi window allows you to assign up to 4 commands per switch, so that's 24 commands, plus you can still assign them to things that do accept modifiers.......not very limiting.

Not to mention, for each of the 24 commands, you can have the CC# you enter control however many blocks you want.

 

[Rock Chalk]

What I meant by "per-preset" is that you can't have different "groups" of blocks controlled by that CS on a per preset basis. Or it can be done somehow? I've never investigated this stuff

I never had the need for "per preset" stuff, so I don't know about that.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

Trying to determine if I should get the FM9, or an Axe FX III with maybe a ground control pro or something like that.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Trying to determine if I should get the FM9, or an Axe FX III with maybe a ground control pro or something like that.

You spelled FC12 wrong!

 

[Eagle]

Trying to determine if I should get the FM9, or an Axe FX III with maybe a ground control pro or something like that.

I have axe 3 and and an old GCP. It depends on how you plan on amplifying it but giging these days I would use a FM9.

 

[dk_ace]

You spelled FC12 wrong!

This…

I like the GCP for what it is, but if you’re going to invest in an Axe3 get the Fc unit.

Or the FM9, it’s killer.

D

 

[dk_ace]

What I meant by "per-preset" is that you can't have different "groups" of blocks controlled by that CS on a per preset basis. Or it can be done somehow? I've never investigated this stuff

You would still have to use the loop back cable like he describes as far as I can tell. You can’t attach a modifier/controller to channel selection, but you can send multiple midi messages that change channels from a control switch.

D

 

[DLC86]

You would still have to use the loop back cable like he describes as far as I can tell. You can’t attach a modifier/controller to channel selection, but you can send multiple midi messages that change channels from a control switch.

Yep, that was pretty clear already

 

[State of Epicicity]

True... Although there are only 6 Control Switches, so that's a bit limiting.

Still, better than nothing :)

It's funny, what you wrote made me think that, with the gapless switching we have now, you could maybe just use more presets to send more MIDI messages via control switches, if you can send different MIDI commands from each preset. I'll have to remember to look into that when I can play next. Of course that still only works when you can find a musically appropriate time to switch presets.

 

[Stratzrus]

Trying to determine if I should get the FM9, or an Axe FX III with maybe a ground control pro or something like that.

You spelled FC12 wrong!

... if you’re going to invest in an Axe3 get the Fc unit.

Absolutely! I have a III and a FC-12 and the two were made for each other. Anything else will lose functionality and be more of PITA to configure.

It's a joy to behold!

 

[iaresee]

Trying to determine if I should get the FM9, or an Axe FX III with maybe a ground control pro or something like that.

The only alternative I'd consider to an FC-12 for an Axe-Fx III is an RJM GT/16 or GT/22 -- and those are considerably more money than an FC-12. A Ground Control Pro has not kept up with state-of-the-art when it comes to foot controllers.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

You spelled FC12 wrong!

250 versus 750. Nah, I spelled Ground Control Pro correct. Thanks though.

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

The only alternative I'd consider to an FC-12 for an Axe-Fx III is an RJM GT/16 or GT/22 -- and those are considerably more money than an FC-12. A Ground Control Pro has not kept up with state-of-the-art when it comes to foot controllers.

I couldn't care less about scribble strips.

 

[JiveTurkey]

250 versus 750. Nah, I spelled Ground Control Pro correct. Thanks though.

Fair enough. Have fun not wanting to throw the FAS whatever against the wall when trying to program midi switching with a non-FAS device

 

[Frodebro]

Just thinking about programming my old GCP makes me twitchy. Rock solid unit, but the UI was horrible….

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

Absolutely! I have a III and a FC-12 and the two were made for each other. Anything else will lose functionality and be more of PITA to configure.

It's a joy to behold!

I just wish I didn't have to pay the lazy tax. I really have zero need for scribble strips.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Just thinking about programming my old GCP makes me twitchy. Rock solid unit, but the UI was horrible….

If you are a patient person; it's fine. I am sure. But FAS anything is dead last for doing that kind of external control programming for me. I do not have the patience for that at all.

 

[Rock Chalk]

250 versus 750. Nah, I spelled Ground Control Pro correct. Thanks though.

Isn't that comparing one used and one new?

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

Isn't that comparing one used and one new?

If memory serves, I think the used FC12s were around $575-600.