Fender Tone Master Pro: Episode IV - A New Hope

It feels like they’re shooting for the boomer custom shop relic buyer who only buys Fender branded stuff and would otherwise never buy any digital modeler. Plenty of disposable income, and just barely feels comfortable enough to dip their toes into modeling if Fender does it and makes it super easy to use. Seems like there is very little overlap between TMP buyers and Helix buyers, except maybe on these forums where people discuss digital modeling.
 
I think people expecting Fender to completely change their developmental cadence in response to Stadium or any other new competitor. will always be sorely disappointed. They set up their team to adhere to the "six-month sprints" model, and you can't just tell them to hurry it up in order to try to beat a product to market with 1-2 features or because people can't wait for X "must-have" amp.

The content on TMP is actually pretty decent as-is and versatile: Some nice convolution reverbs, both standard and cloud/ambient-like. A (somewhat wonky, but still neat) feedbacker. Most meat-and-potatoes amps are legit. I tell you, I was closer than I ever thought I'd be to making it my primary rig before Stadium was announced. It's certainly fun as hell to operate, and has a great form factor.

That being said, I decided to move on because I got tired of the clunky "Scenes" mode (which was barely used in any factory presets), limited routing flexibility and because Stadium definitely fit the vision of what I'd hoped TMP might evolve into pretty much from the jump. Someday, they'll add on a synth, get a lot more of the amps people want, and then...people will give it another look in disbelief at how underrated it is.

From what I can tell, Fender has a long-term vision for this and a good team in place. They should stick with that.
 
It feels like they’re shooting for the boomer custom shop relic buyer who only buys Fender branded stuff and would otherwise never buy any digital modeler. Plenty of disposable income, and just barely feels comfortable enough to dip their toes into modeling if Fender does it and makes it super easy to use. Seems like there is very little overlap between TMP buyers and Helix buyers, except maybe on these forums where people discuss digital modeling.

They’re definitely taking the low risk route, but traditionally Fender and Gibson have fared rather poorly when it comes to products that move too far away from their classic stuff. I would guesstimate that 90% of the sales for both companies is to designs that are at least 60 years old.
 
I haven’t seen them sway from their original word about updates and the fact they publish their task list of known issues is great communication, IMO, letting people know “Yep, we’re aware of the issue and it’s on our list”, rather than sending a bug report into the void and hoping it gets resolved at some point.

And whether or not TGF’ers see it as competition to Fractal/Line 6/NDSP, it certainly is in the eyes of those who would purchase one, which means it’s likely the owners of the above companies see it that way as well, which is good for us all.
 
They’re definitely taking the low risk route, but traditionally Fender and Gibson have fared rather poorly when it comes to products that move too far away from their classic stuff. I would guesstimate that 90% of the sales for both companies is to designs that are at least 60 years old.
Maybe Marshall too? Except for the headphones and speakers stuff.
 
I’d love to give the TMP a go if I were in the market for a new unit. I just can’t justify it right now. I have zero Fender guitars right now but the four amps I have, I really enjoy. Especially as dirt pedal platforms.
 
Not quite to the same degree, the JMP-1 and JVM have been hugely popular. But there is still a strong love for the earlier stuff.
Well, I do have a JVM LOL! So you are right about that. I’d like to see a modern JMP-1. Nostalgic for rack gear preamps.
 
Fwiw, the TMP is the only of these kinda units with two analog loops. I always thought of that as being most excellent, but it seems to get very little praise.
 
They’re definitely taking the low risk route, but traditionally Fender and Gibson have fared rather poorly when it comes to products that move too far away from their classic stuff. I would guesstimate that 90% of the sales for both companies is to designs that are at least 60 years old.

Hot Rod amps would beg to differ with that statement
 
Vague non sequiter, I know the line gets dogged on a lot but having owned a couple deluxes, a deville, and a blues deluxe they are very serviceable and usable amps and are up for most tasks

There’s a reason they’re probably the most ubiquitous amps of the last 30 years.

They’re not sexy, but they’re solid dependable workhorses that sound great
 
Maybe the hate comes from the dirt channels? Idk I pretty much always ignored those and never even attempted to work with them :LOL:

For all I know maybe there’s something there too though
 
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