CSGuitarGuy01
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Hey all,
New to the forums here. I thought I’d contribute a small amount as I’m always using Google and browsing these forums to learn from you all – a big shout out and thank you!
I just picked up a TMP after a lot of research online and countless hours of YouTube. For me, it came down to the ease of use and flexibility of the platform. I am very new to modeling and getting back into guitar after a long (10 year) pause. I’m falling in love again and can’t believe how much technology has enhanced the experience.
Gear: I have a pedal board with some dirt pedals, and your standard “wet” effects like tape echo, reverb, etc. My main amp is a Friedman Smallbox with a matching 4x12 cabinet. Absolutely in love with this amp… but that’s not why we’re here…
Use case: I’m an at-home player, I don’t tour or ever leave my house with my guitar. That said, my career and multiple hobbies all revolve around tinkering. Finding “tones” that I like was no exception – once I learned about amp modeling, and the limitless configurability I knew I wanted to dive in.
Setup: For my setup I wanted a way to integrate the TMP into my amp/pedal board, as well as give myself the flexibility to play silently (through headphones) or play through my mock FRFR (Fishman Loudbox). I really struggled to figure out how to connect everything together and I wanted to share my solution in case it helps someone out and/or receive critique for a better way to do things.
I have attached a diagram I drew to explain things a bit better. I started with the manual to understand how to connect the TMP Effect loop and Output 1 to my amp. I branched off from this idea to understand how to integrate the Overdrive pedals I use (dirt) into the front of the TMP, and integrate the wet effects into the FX Loop of my amp. This setup requires modifying any presets to remove the IR cab simulation and replace it with the “External Cab” option as I’m playing through my 4x12 either through the amp tone stack, or by using an amp simulation and just using the Smallbox as a power amplifier (bypassing the tone stack).
So far, so good. The documentation explains all this in detail. But, I wanted a way, without touching any cabling, to hear a cab sim through my headphones or my FRFR. I accomplished this with a jumper from OUT1 into the MIC/LINE input. I then have to modify the preset to “Instrument + MIC/LINE SERIES” (you can also use parallel if you need).
What I’m doing is feeding the same signal my power amp is getting (amp sim only, no cab sim) back into the TMP, then utilizing OUT2 into my FRFR and the second line is configured with only a cab sim.
I then set up my levels in the mixer (my dial only adjusts the headphone level) and I set up the monitoring for each output channel.
I few pain points:
I’ve detailed the above in a series of photos attached to this post. I hope this helps someone else, and I look forward to any feedback.
New to the forums here. I thought I’d contribute a small amount as I’m always using Google and browsing these forums to learn from you all – a big shout out and thank you!
I just picked up a TMP after a lot of research online and countless hours of YouTube. For me, it came down to the ease of use and flexibility of the platform. I am very new to modeling and getting back into guitar after a long (10 year) pause. I’m falling in love again and can’t believe how much technology has enhanced the experience.
Gear: I have a pedal board with some dirt pedals, and your standard “wet” effects like tape echo, reverb, etc. My main amp is a Friedman Smallbox with a matching 4x12 cabinet. Absolutely in love with this amp… but that’s not why we’re here…
Use case: I’m an at-home player, I don’t tour or ever leave my house with my guitar. That said, my career and multiple hobbies all revolve around tinkering. Finding “tones” that I like was no exception – once I learned about amp modeling, and the limitless configurability I knew I wanted to dive in.
Setup: For my setup I wanted a way to integrate the TMP into my amp/pedal board, as well as give myself the flexibility to play silently (through headphones) or play through my mock FRFR (Fishman Loudbox). I really struggled to figure out how to connect everything together and I wanted to share my solution in case it helps someone out and/or receive critique for a better way to do things.
I have attached a diagram I drew to explain things a bit better. I started with the manual to understand how to connect the TMP Effect loop and Output 1 to my amp. I branched off from this idea to understand how to integrate the Overdrive pedals I use (dirt) into the front of the TMP, and integrate the wet effects into the FX Loop of my amp. This setup requires modifying any presets to remove the IR cab simulation and replace it with the “External Cab” option as I’m playing through my 4x12 either through the amp tone stack, or by using an amp simulation and just using the Smallbox as a power amplifier (bypassing the tone stack).
So far, so good. The documentation explains all this in detail. But, I wanted a way, without touching any cabling, to hear a cab sim through my headphones or my FRFR. I accomplished this with a jumper from OUT1 into the MIC/LINE input. I then have to modify the preset to “Instrument + MIC/LINE SERIES” (you can also use parallel if you need).
What I’m doing is feeding the same signal my power amp is getting (amp sim only, no cab sim) back into the TMP, then utilizing OUT2 into my FRFR and the second line is configured with only a cab sim.
I then set up my levels in the mixer (my dial only adjusts the headphone level) and I set up the monitoring for each output channel.
I few pain points:
- I’m not sure exactly how to setup the external cab sim… I set the low cutoff to 50hz and the High cutoff to 8khz, the SIC I use roughly matches the cab I have, but I understand from the manual you kinda pick whatever sounds good.
- When you have a combo cab selected in your preset, the external cab option isn’t available. All (or most) of the combos have “head only” options, so you just need to edit the preset to replace the combo with the cab – however, it would be really nice if they changed this in a firmware update to allow you to select “External Cab” in a combo.
I’ve detailed the above in a series of photos attached to this post. I hope this helps someone else, and I look forward to any feedback.
