Fender Tone Master Pro: Episode IV - A New Hope

[mikah912]

I'd actually kind of like it. I listed it in a posts 1788 and 1790. But don't let factual reality stop you for speaking on someone else's behalf. :)

I'm kidding, man. I truly hope they pivot to taking care of the stuff you're missing, regardless of whether you stick with it or not.

 

[ChordInversion]

Gotta say, the Tweed Deluxe sounds pretty spectacular to me.

 

[Tritium3H]

Another excellent example of Fender TMP team listening to their customers, is the changes to the Scenes behavior. Previously, if you were in a certain scene (Scene "A"), and toggled ON an effect that was normally "off", and then switched to a different scene (Scene "B")...when you returned to the original Scene "A", it reverted to the default scene with that effect being off.

Now, there is a Global parameter called "Scene Change Behavior", which allows the user to chose to either "Maintain Changes" or "Discard Changes". This was a tendentious issue, which is now solved. Remember, at first, the Fender TMP wasn't quite clear why this was such a requested feature...probably given the TMP's gapless preset switching. However, guitarists familiar with digital modelers have become accustomed to using "scenes" or "snapshots.

The Fender TMP team actually LISTENED to their customers, and implemented the requested logic/behavior of having a scene either remember its changed state, - or - when you switch to another scene, and return to original scene, to discard the prior changes made in the original scene.

Thank you Fender!

And yes, the convolution Plate and Hall reverbs are absolutely INCREDIBLE !! The convolution-based Plate goes particular well with technical lead-style guitar playing, when paired with a moderate to high gain SLO-100 or JCM800. For more ambient stuff, the Ascension and Imperium Convolution Hall Reverbs are ethereal. Also make for a great ambient "pad" for soloing over.

 

[BenIfin]

Totally basic question - can the TMP run 2 Amps into 2 different Cabs [or IR's] each with 2 different Mic's with 2 different SIC's and sum it all to a mono-out ?

 

[JCW308]

Did they add "expression pedal heel down for tuner" yet?

 

[eon]

This popped up in my feed today — a detailed overview of all the new features.

 

[ChordInversion]

Totally basic question - can the TMP run 2 Amps into 2 different Cabs [or IR's] each with 2 different Mic's with 2 different SIC's and sum it all to a mono-out ?

Funny. For anyone genuinely curious: It cannot. It can do 2 IRs, and as it was explained on the discord, 2 mics on one cabinet (the newly added feature) is just two IRs.

 

[ChordInversion]

Unless you are addicted to touchscreens; zero idea why you'd stick with this thing. If having stuff in the box is important.

I got a deal and use it for quick dial-in practice playing, but...you're not wrong.

 

[ian_dissonance]

What is a poo switch?

It’s a switch that’s also a knob, so you go use the venue bathroom and come back and tap it with it your foot then you adjust it with your hands and now it’s a poo switch.

 

[Mikael Dez]

It’s a switch that’s also a knob, so you go use the venue bathroom and come back and tap it with it your foot then you adjust it with your hands and now it’s a poo switch.

This is a great reason to have a second pair of stage shoes - but even that would only get you so far. Poop is everywhere.

 

[ian_dissonance]

This is a great reason to have a second pair of stage shoes - but even that would only get you so far. Poop is everywhere.

The knobs you don’t step on inevitably have some, but probably not as much. I’ll be in for switch knobs when the screen is as wide as the FS layout.

 

[Chocol8]

This is a great reason to have a second pair of stage shoes - but even that would only get you so far. Poop is everywhere.

No, it is a great reason not to use foot switches as knobs. It is lazy design.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I got a deal and use it for quick dial-in practice playing, but...you're not wrong.

No shame. I have heard some great sounds out of them here and there certainly.

Poo switches in concept are gross but I'm telling you; keep all your touchscreen crap all you want. Poo switches is the next gen upgrade I want on my modeling hardware.

 

[Chocol8]

Poo switches in concept are gross but I'm telling you; keep all your touchscreen crap all you want. Poo switches is the next gen upgrade I want on my modeling hardware.

I want neither. Give me reliable blue tooth with support for iOS and Android phones and tablets, plus major OS laptops. If the device is meant to sit on a floor, which FOOT switches implies, I don't ever want to have to bend down to adjust it when I already have a more capable touch screen in hand or on a stand.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I want neither. Give me reliable blue tooth with support for iOS and Android phones and tablets, plus major OS laptops. If the device is meant to sit on a floor, which FOOT switches implies, I don't ever want to have to bend down to adjust it when I already have a more capable touch screen in hand or on a stand.

Why not both is my answer.

 

[KHAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!]

It’s a switch that’s also a knob, so you go use the venue bathroom and come back and tap it with it your foot then you adjust it with your hands and now it’s a poo switch.

How about "Dung Dial"?

"Sewage Switch"????

 

[Chocol8]

Why not both is my answer.

I think the encoder knob/switches and the screens will prove to be major points of failure over time, while a simpler device with an internal BT chip can be made to be significantly more robust and road/gig worthy.

 

[mikah912]

Why not both is my answer.

TMP has both. The Pro Control app lets you do everything from your phone in real-time as well as manage presets/files/etc. Or you can use the touchscreen....or bend down and turn poo switches. The versatility is one of my favorite things about it.

 

[Frodebro]

Another excellent example of Fender TMP team listening to their customers, is the changes to the Scenes behavior. Previously, if you were in a certain scene (Scene "A"), and toggled ON an effect that was normally "off", and then switched to a different scene (Scene "B")...when you returned to the original Scene "A", it reverted to the default scene with that effect being off.

Now, there is a Global parameter called "Scene Change Behavior", which allows the user to chose to either "Maintain Changes" or "Discard Changes". This was a tendentious issue, which is now solved. Remember, at first, the Fender TMP wasn't quite clear why this was such a requested feature...probably given the TMP's gapless preset switching. However, guitarists familiar with digital modelers have become accustomed to using "scenes" or "snapshots.

The Fender TMP team actually LISTENED to their customers, and implemented the requested logic/behavior of having a scene either remember its changed state, - or - when you switch to another scene, and return to original scene, to discard the prior changes made in the original scene.

Thank you Fender!

The TMP was full of quirky omissions like that one at launch, which honestly was the reason I didn't buy one and went with the FM9 instead. No scene recap, no global volume control, and a couple other little things that were important to me.

I know that the Fender reps do listen and try their best to keep up with everything, but the nature of the Fender structure is different from everyone else that they are competing with. Have a problem with something Fractal, and often times Cliff will personally respond to you and then very quickly implement a change or fix (just ask @James Freeman). Line 6 has a similar chain of command, where Eric (Digital Igloo) responds directly. With Fender, the reps that you interact with have to pass information on to the developers, and I would guess that corporate stuff also gets involved there. So the fixes happen with the TMP, but not as lightning fast as with everybody else. No fault of the reps or developers, that's just the world they have to navigate through.

 

[ian_dissonance]

I think the encoder knob/switches and the screens will prove to be major points of failure over time, while a simpler device with an internal BT chip can be made to be significantly more robust and road/gig worthy.

A REALLY GOOD BT CHIP with great software behind it. I actually really, really
like this function with the GT1K, but I have to “forget” the device on my phone every 3rd or 4th time I want to use it or it won’t connect.