Anybody else getting sick of modellers?

[DrewJD82]

Hell, I've been using the Fractal EVH model for the last couple days while I have an actual EVH head plugged into a load box and could have been using it in less time, since I dialed in a new 5153 preset from scratch.

 

[Stone]

I'm very sick of being able to create any tone I want from one single box
I mean who would be sick of just having one amp and single cab with one set of speakers that cost more than my FM9 and then having a coffin sized pedal board, multiple power supplies and tons of cables, and having more switches that would confuse even Fred Astaire
So yes I'm very sick of modelers, especially my FM9

 

[Frankencat]

Amps sound good. Modelers sound good. We're blessed with lots of ways to sound good these days and we should be able to recognize what would be best and adapt. If it's a situation where just direct into an amp is the best solution and you can move some air with lots of volume... do that. If a modeler or a hybrid rig would be better use that. If they want a silent stage be able to go direct that way too. Flexibility and not getting bogged down into only one way - being able to dial in good tones based on the situation in front of you is the way to be.

This is the way.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Orange makes a very reliable solid state amp. In fact, it's one of the best solid state amps made IMO. Their higher end valve amps are decent but not bulletproof. All their hybrid stuff was/is a ticking time bomb just like Blackstar's hybrid stuff.

Mesa hasn't made a reliable amp since the 80's. My dad worked for Mesa Boogie in Petaluma CA for 17 years. He was one of the original cabinet makers there. He left Mesa Boogie in the mid 80's for a job at Boeing in Seattle because he said they no longer cared about anything but profit and he was sick of all the corners they were cutting. In fact, he said a large group of long time employees left over a few years for the same reason.


Mesa and Blackstar are similar in that they sound great, but a lot of their amps are just not reliable. I've seen more dual rectifiers and Mark series mesas take a dive on stage than any other amp.

If you you're now using software/digital stuff, you can't really trash any valve amp including a Harley Benton because they all sound better than what you're using. You know this to be true. I get it though. Hauling amps and effects around is a pain in the @$$

Lots of bullshit here, but mainly about Mesa not making reliable amps since the 80’s.

And you’re fucking tone deaf if you think tube amps always inherently sound better than digital.

 

[gy1900s]

Lots of bullshit here, but mainly about Mesa not making reliable amps since the 80’s.

And you’re fucking tone deaf if you think tube amps always inherently sound better than digital.

Why get angry?
We're just having a conversation.

You're getting upset over opinions. That's silly.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Why get angry.
We're just having a conversation.

You're getting upset over opinions. That's silly.

Not angry at all! I just think you’re full of shit. Big difference.

 

[gy1900s]

Not angry at all! I just think you’re full of shit. Big difference.

You clearly seem upset with my opinion, which again, is silly.

If you just disagreed with my opinion, you would articulate why you disagree. Instead, you're just talking aggressively and throwing out insults.

Chat GPT-4 says your last two posts show a 94% chance of emotional anxiety.

Anyways, let's just squash this. You seem cool. I mean, you got a digital modeler. That means you're probably pretty hip. Did you play in a metal band? I definitely think Mesa amps sound awesome. I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

 

[norminal]

Chat GPT-4 says your last two posts show a 94% chance of emotional anxiety.

 

[Alex Kenivel]

 

[Alex Kenivel]

Chat GPT-4 says your last two posts show a 94% chance of emotional anxiety.

Chat GPT still can't arrange a list of songs in chronological order.

 

[la szum]

Mesa hasn't made a reliable amp since the 80's. My dad worked for Mesa Boogie in Petaluma CA for 17 years. He was one of the original cabinet makers there. He left Mesa Boogie in the mid 80's for a job at Boeing in Seattle because he said they no longer cared about anything but profit and he was sick of all the corners they were cutting. In fact, he said a large group of long time employees left over a few years for the same reason.

Cool story. Not sure the Boeing reference and "quality" ages well though.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Using ChatGPT in an attempt to gaslight. Now THAT is funny.
Points for creativity for sure though!

 

[FuzzyAce]

I'm very sick of being able to create any tone I want from one single box
I mean who would be sick of just having one amp and single cab with one set of speakers that cost more than my FM9 and then having a coffin sized pedal board, multiple power supplies and tons of cables, and having more switches that would confuse even Fred Astaire
So yes I'm very sick of modelers, especially my FM9

 

[gy1900s]

Chat GPT still can't arrange a list of songs in chronological order.

But it can pass the bar exam. Makes me think less of my attorney.

 

[gy1900s]

Cool story. Not sure the Boeing reference and "quality" ages well though.

Ain't that the truth lol

My old man had some stories about Boeing.
Said they used to put speed in the coffee on the graveyard shift. He used to laugh about the fact that every other guy on his team was on hard drugs...gotta love the 80's

 

[Achilles]

Chat GPT-4 says.....

 

[paisleywookiee]

 

[gy1900s]

Using ChatGPT in an attempt to gaslight. Now THAT is funny.
Points for creativity for sure though!

You're thinking of triggered

 

[sashimi]

You're thinking of triggered

 

[gy1900s]

Gaslighting is manipulating someone into questioning heir own sanity.
It doesn't work with a narcissist; however, you can definitely trigger them by pointing out that they're out of line, which comes off as gaslighting to them because their brains aren't wired the same as yours or mine. They're so confident that they're not being weird that telling them that they're being weird feels like an attempt to gaslight them in their reality.......Narcs are a trip