3.6 When ?

[Sascha Franck]

Which HX based interfaces are you referring to?

All. 16.Xms round-trip latency, worst of its class.
Tracking is a different thing as you'd likely only monitor through the HX, not through your software.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Best modeler interface there is, I'd say.

In case latency is irrelevant for you, perhaps. But once thar matters, it's the worst, even my cheesy Zoom G3 is doing better.

 

[mbenigni]

All. 16.Xms round-trip latency, worst of its class.
Tracking is a different thing as you'd likely only monitor through the HX, not through your software.

Well, I can't argue this on any quantitative basis, but I often monitored through software (e.g. Helix Native) while using Helix or HX Stomp as my interface.

It's neither here nor there. As I said, I do use USB audio channels as sends and returns on Helix (by playing games with the input and output blocks and killing entire lanes of routing in the process), and the results are fine from a latency and audio quality standpoint. They're just clumsy and limiting from a functionality standpoint. Being able to add, for instance, a Loop block targeting USB audio 5/6, would be a HUGE improvement.

 

[Sascha Franck]

and the results are fine from a latency and audio quality standpoint.

Audio quality is absolutely fine. Latency is the exact opposite and personally, I simply can't deal with it, apart from mixing a little wet portion of delay/verb in.
Someone coming up with a hardware modeler while at the same time delivering professionally low latencies would actually be quite a big wish of mine.

 

[paisleywookiee]

All. 16.Xms round-trip latency, worst of its class.
Tracking is a different thing as you'd likely only monitor through the HX, not through your software.

Wait, you're getting a minimum of 16ms with HX hardware as the audio interface? That's weird. Mine was NEVER anywhere near that, when I had the Stomp.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Earlier line 6 interfaces had latency similar to all the TheSycon.de drivers, not sure what happened, the Firehawk and Helix are like double that

 

[Sascha Franck]

Wait, you're getting a minimum of 16ms with HX hardware as the audio interface? That's weird. Mine was NEVER anywhere near that, when I had the Stomp.

It can't be lower. Matter of physics and drivers. Hence, your number's haven't been lower, either (unless you were running your DAW at 96/192kHz).

 

[James Freeman]

Okay but what about comb filtering?

 

[paisleywookiee]

It can't be lower. Matter of physics and drivers. Hence, your number's haven't been lower, either (unless you were running your DAW at 96/192kHz).

So I'm not getting lower than 16ms round trip in Logic? I mean, I can't test, because I don't have a Stomp anymore. But my latency has never been that high.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Okay but what about comb filtering?

16ms are probably akin towards the realm of doubling already.

 

[Sascha Franck]

So I'm not getting lower than 16ms round trip in Logic?

That is correct. Ok, 16.x are at 64 samples, but it's only slightly lower at 32 samples.

But my latency has never been that high.

I'm afraid it was. There's just no way around it (unless you were running the Stomp without drivers installed, which I'd doubt - and it'd not be way lower, either).

 

[paisleywookiee]

That is correct. Ok, 16.x are at 64 samples, but it's only slightly lower at 32 samples.



I'm afraid it was. There's just no way around it (unless you were running the Stomp without drivers installed, which I'd doubt - and it'd not be way lower, either).

No drivers installed, it's not necessary with Logic/MacOS.

 

[Sascha Franck]

And fwiw, I will happily post screenshots when I'm back home.
And fwiw #2: I'm actually sorta surprised as this is pretty wellknown. Just ask @Jim Roseberry, he measured various modeler's latencies a long time ago already.

 

[Sascha Franck]

No drivers installed, it's not necessary with Logic/MacOS

So you were only running it at 48kHz?

 

[Sascha Franck]

Also, all even just slightly advanced features are only available once you install the drivers.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I don't remember, because as I've said, I don't have one anymore. I'm just saying Logic never reported latency that high with it. I guess it's not accurate.

 

[Bob Zaod]

Luckily for me I have never taken any "interface included" claims in a doitall unit seriously. I highly doubt anyone would try to use the interface in a HX box for mission critical stuff. So while I respect and appreciate the information, I do not use HX interface regularly. The times I have used it for AT5 and other VST's I was not disappointed when monitoring via hardware.

 

[mbenigni]

Also, all even just slightly advanced features are only available once you install the drivers.

But anyway, we really, really digress. Let's just assume I can tolerate the latency because I'm a time traveler from the future, and let's assume that I can make use of the feature I'm asking about. Is there some reason the FX Loop blocks cannot be routed to/from USB audio?

 

[JiveTurkey]

But anyway, we really, really digress. Let's just assume I can tolerate the latency because I'm a time traveler from the future, and let's assume that I can make use of the feature I'm asking about. Is there some reason the FX Loop blocks cannot be routed to/from USB audio?

 

[Sascha Franck]

Logic never reported latency that high with it. I guess it's not accurate.

The numbers Logic is reporting are the same you get from physical measurements (which actually speaks in favour of the drivers).