What’s going on with Marshall??

[paisleywookiee]

Yes. There are plenty options for everybody. Quite a few musicians just don't play big enough stages or stages at all.
The silliness arises when someone makes a comment like "well, why don't you get the 100W version instead? Never compromise, bruh."
Hey, I agree a 100W stack cranked up is a glorious thing, but it's not realistic in most cases. There are tons of players that have returned or sold said 100W amps because they are blistering loud on 1 or 2. Hopefully they have a decent master volume, but if not you need to add more accessories to get that tone to reasonable volumes but still sound like it's "cranked" tone. So now enter in: 15/20/30/50 watt options for people that don't want all the accessories. Same with the popularity of modelers. It's not too difficult to understand.

The reason why my buddy's shop sells 20-25w heads more than 100w heads is simply because the gigging musicians around here can mike it, or DI it. Onstage volume isn't 120dB anymore. Why not save money and gain portability, if it fits the need?

 

[la szum]

The reason why my buddy's shop sells 20-25w heads more than 100w heads is simply because the gigging musicians around here can mike it, or DI it. Onstage volume isn't 120dB anymore. Why not save money and gain portability, if it fits the need?

Yup.

Our Ideas < Reality.

Doesn't keep us from loving our ideas and hating reality sometimes, though.

 

[Frodebro]

Once you get to 40-50w, which generally means big bottles, I don't think it matters until you're at a dB that'll damage hearing. Yes, you could argue there are minute differences in low end or whatever, but again it's not worth the cost, either initial or future tube replacement, nor the weight. This is 2024. We have PAs now.
Around here, if you show up with a 100w head and a full stack, you look like an asshole that's compensating for something.

50W seems to be the sweet spot for me with my band. I need enough power to stay very clean even if things are a bit loud, and 50 will do it.

 

[paisleywookiee]

50W seems to be the sweet spot for me with my band. I need enough power to stay very clean even if things are a bit loud, and 50 will do it.

I agree. That’s why it’s a drag Mesa seems to be trending 25w or 100w only.

 

[Frodebro]

I agree. That’s why it’s a drag Mesa seems to be trending 25w or 100w only.

I have a Triple Crown 50 and a Fillmore 50, both have seen band time.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I have a Triple Crown 50 and a Fillmore 50, both have seen band time.

Yeah those are great. They're also going away.

 

[Frodebro]

Yeah those are great. They're also going away.

Mesa is going away, too. Be ready for the Les Paul signature Mark IIc+ 15W SS 1x10 combo in time for Christmas.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Mesa is going away, too. Be ready for the Les Paul signature Mark IIc+ 15W SS 1x10 combo in time for Christmas.

Sadly, you’re not wrong.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Got my JVM head at the new lower US price and love it in my living room. Buy what moves you!

 

[Spaced Out Ace]

Yeah those are great. They're also going away.

So is the Badlander 50 it seems.

 

[paisleywookiee]

So is the Badlander 50 it seems.

BL50 is gone now. The others will follow in 2025.

 

[Frodebro]

BL50 is gone now. The others will follow in 2025.

Gibson is now in a position to take on Marshall in the small appliances market. Coming soon: Mesa Recto Air Fryer.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Gibson is now in a position to take on Marshall in the small appliances market. Coming soon: Mesa Recto Air Fryer.

we need a laugh/cry reaction.

 

[Frodebro]

Or maybe they’re moving away from the consumer market to focus on commercial sales…

The Triple Recto Fryer

 

[la szum]

With all the great power-switching possibilities on big boy Mesa amps I kind of don't
get the Mini-Mesa frenzy.

Apart from size, weight, and price. Shit, you can get a big boy Mark V on the used market
for about the price of a new MKV:25.

Sad world is sad. Sad world is also full of possibilities for those wise enough to see them.

 

[TSJMajesty]

With all the great power-switching possibilities on big boy Mesa amps I kind of don't
get the Mini-Mesa frenzy.

Apart from size, weight, and price.

Those are some big reasons though. Especially price.

 

[LeftyLoungeLizard]

Who me?

I want that pickup.

 

[TSJMajesty]

I want that pickup.

Green flames.

 

[la szum]

Those are some big reasons though. Especially price.

Used Mark V's are as cheap new MKV:25s and cheaper than new MKV:35s.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I won't lie, I'd still love a 1959 stack. Why? Because it's cool AF.