Those Seymour Duncan Powerstage amps are utter tripe

[Orvillain]

Not the same context as everyone else.

Yeah. It was.

Not talking about you.

Be clearer with your words. It is what your hero would want.

Sorry you use them as beta testers for BFD.

That deserves a poo-poo emoji.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Once I'm done with my Japan trip next month, I might pick up a 700watter Powerstage and check it out.

Really?!? I actually get on fine with the 170 and would never consider the 700 as an option if I needed something with more oomph. The dumbest form factor ever (1.25U?!?), no independent volume knobs for the two channels. And very similar power supply to the 170/200.

 

[SKU]

 

[Orvillain]

Really?!? I actually get on fine with the 170 and would never consider the 700 as an option if I needed something with more oomph. The dumbest form factor ever (1.25U?!?), no independent volume knobs for the two channels. And very similar power supply to the 170/200.

The assertion here is that these class D poweramps cannot provide their rated wattage in a sustained fashion. The PS200 gives 210W at a 4ohm load. But that might just be a peak reading.

So the theory is, more wattage means more headroom, means more chance of actually sustaining 100W continuously into a 4ohm load.

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[JiveTurkey]

Really?!? I actually get on fine with the 170 and would never consider the 700 as an option if I needed something with more oomph. The dumbest form factor ever (1.25U?!?), no independent volume knobs for the two channels. And very similar power supply to the 170/200.

DUMB AF form factor. Isn't there some 'can't run it for full wattage rating mono; or other such dumbness?

 

[SKU]

 

[JiveTurkey]

In the same vein as the Katana. If I wanted power amp coloration; I'd just get a regular guitar amp. That's why the Fryette stuff (despite being impossible to get most of the time) is the most appealing when you are trying to get out of the modeling's way with whatever you are using for power.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

The assertion here is that these class D poweramps cannot provide their rated wattage in a sustained fashion. The PS200 gives 210W at a 4ohm load. But that might just be a peak reading.

So the theory is, more wattage means more headroom, means more chance of actually sustaining 100W continuously into a 4ohm load.

even if it does do that, why not spend less on a 2U poweramp with better features since 2U vs 1.25U with Mickey Mouse ears is still basically the same thing?

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

DUMB AF form factor. Isn't there some 'can't run it for full wattage rating mono; or other such dumbness?

Yeah, I don’t remember exactly what it was, but was definitely another issue.

 

[Orvillain]

even if it does do that, why not spend less on a 2U poweramp with better features since 2U vs 1.25U with Mickey Mouse ears is still basically the same thing?

Such as?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Yeah, I don’t remember exactly what it was, but was definitely another issue.

I think I got in argument about it with FPLPLPLLP at TOP.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Such as?

As but one example, there is the @James Freeman approved

Behringer A800 800W 2-channel Power Amplifier

2-channel, 800-watt Reference Power Amplifier with Stereo and Bridged Mono Operation, Servo-controlled Design, Convection Cooling, Overload Protection, and LED Metering

www.sweetwater.com

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

The Powerstage stuff costs a lot for what it is because made by a company that doesn’t normally make power amps and aren’t selling them on the scale that standard PA/pro-audio power amps are being sold at.

The 170 and 200 are small enough to offer ability to apply them in unique ways that, for me, justified the added cost.

The 700 is smaller…but not so much that it offers any real world benefit. It has an EQ, but front panel input Jack is dumb, and single volume knob is truly limiting (consider running into two speakers of different sensitivity…or even just wanting to tailor the tonal balance of the two different speakers. Or wanting to run wet dry and have a convenient plays to balance wet cs dry). Why would I pay more for it?

 

[HotRats]

IME people who like the power stage ( any of them) are leaning heavily on the powerful eq and aren’t needing or using to compete with tubes or loud band mates . They are very user friendly and fine for home but that is it.

Tube amps have presence, resonance and some times powerful eqs (like 5 band mesa)

 

[MTB1973]

The Pedal Baby was ~$325. Fryette stuff is around $850+ used. Just sayin’

 

[SKU]

In the same vein as the Katana. If I wanted power amp coloration; I'd just get a regular guitar amp. That's why the Fryette stuff (despite being impossible to get most of the time) is the most appealing when you are trying to get out of the modeling's way with whatever you are using for power.

Never tried the Orange but it's class AB so it's by default better but I agree ... I have tried the Katana head this way and never got even decent results... ( must be some class D circuitry embedded in its class AB power amp )

 

[DLC86]

The assertion here is that these class D poweramps cannot provide their rated wattage in a sustained fashion. The PS200 gives 210W at a 4ohm load. But that might just be a peak reading.

So the theory is, more wattage means more headroom, means more chance of actually sustaining 100W continuously into a 4ohm load.

Actually I just checked the datasheet of the icepower module that's likely inside the PS200 and it says it can provide 130-140W of continuous power into 4 ohms.
That's referred to the thermal shutdown though, it isn't explicitly mentioned if the power supply can steadily handle that (theorically it should)

ICEpower 200AS1 - ICEpower Shop

Featuring an extremely capable fly back power supply with a continuous power capability of 160 W and a short-term power of 300 W, combined with a 1x 200 W class D amplifier. The 200AS1 is designed for use in guitar amplifiers, bass amplifiers, subwoofers and active speakers without the need for...

shop.icepoweraudio.com

EDIT: now I see that it's stated in the main description actually, and even in the link preview you see here

 

[jellodog]

... If it still sounds like absolute arsecandy

Surely arsecandy is a positive thing?