SoOOoN (Neural DSP Nano Cortex)

[metropolis_4]

Gotta love how a fixed signal chain was a sign of Kemper being stuck in the past, but now on Nano Cortex it’s the future of guitar rigs

 

[mikah912]

I know it's NDSP and how this forum feels about them. But boy have we all just taken a jaded approach on new gear.

I wonder what it will take to get back to excitement about new gear? Maybe it's a digital specific issue?

Well, people are listing lots of legitimate reasons why it's a miss for them. Especially if you like the unique selling points of the QC, all of which have been trimmed away.

 

[mbenigni]

Hmm, Pre-FXs are only gate/transpose, while Post-FXs are chorus/delay/reverb?

That's... weirdly limiting. I think even the ToneX pedal has more options available.

The NC looks cool, don't get me wrong, but this is far from the HX Stomp killer some were predicting...

I agree it's weirdly limiting, but the Tone X has even fewer options.

 

[holoholo]

Man I love a tgf product release thread. Lot of smart dudes here with a sense of humor. These threads are always a fun read even when I won’t buy.

Reading 37 pages of a product I won’t buy:

 

[mbenigni]

One Chorus
One Delay
One Reverb

Yeah. You know, "infinite".

 

[JiveTurkey]

Man I love a tgf product release thread. Lot of smart dudes here with a sense of humor. These threads are always a fun read even when I won’t buy.

Reading 37 pages of a product I won’t buy:

 

[ejecta]

Kemper Player is way more expensive, but will play any Kemper Rig, and comes with a shitton of FX.

Didn’t know this.

If I were to use this or the smaller Kemper it would be my other pedals for effects as well. I think this is what that’s aimed at like the other pedal board friendly modeled/profilers

 

[mikah912]

I'm not saying they don't but it misses the point. When someone builds a board and uses a "mini" pedal for an amp, its because they have delays and reverbs and boosts they already like. The person who buys this pedal couldn't give a toss about the included reverb except as an occasional gap filler. Its for making and playing back captures.

Then, why this over the $399 Tonex pedal?

 

[mbenigni]

For you QC owners how is the capture accuracy in general? I feel like I never really see anyone talk about qc captures, just nam and tonex really

For me the whole appeal of the QC is ease of use. Which is another way of saying I'm way too lazy to be making captures. I sigh in exasperation when I have to look at my phone to find some other fool's amp to download.

 

[GTR37]

(Unless you use spring reverb)

On the QC ?
Yeah we don’t do that

 

[Achilles]

Especially if you like the unique selling points of the QC, all of which have been trimmed away.

Well, they also trimmed $1,150 from the price.

$549 vs $1,699

Maybe good to keep that in the forefront here?

 

[GTR37]

For me the whole appeal of the QC is ease of use. Which is another way of saying I'm way too lazy to be making captures. I sigh in exasperation when I have to look at my phone to find some other fool's amp to download.

Also if you give the power to capture at 549 I can imagine the mass amount of less than stellar ones hitting the cloud will be exponential

 

[holoholo]

That actually is not bad considering the are promoting
100% gapless switching

Please also no firmware updates and low boot time for that one dude

 

[mbenigni]

Then, why this over the $399 Tonex pedal?

For $150 more you get:

(Probably) a better gate
Transpose
Delay
Modulation
Expression Pedal
Onboard capturing
MIDI over USB
etc.

(Also: I don't know if you've ever used a ToneX pedal, but NDSP would have needed to try really hard to make the Nano less pleasant.)

 

[Mongillo19]

Then, why this over the $399 Tonex pedal?

I know you don't view it as such but onboard capturing is being greatly overlooked on your end imo

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

You've still got some poo switches. But this is not a QC, that's for sure.

But no Poo Knobs. Don't think about that one too hard... ...he said hard... I'll see myself out...

 

[ejecta]

For you QC owners how is the capture accuracy in general? I feel like I never really see anyone talk about qc captures, just nam and tonex really

For me when I owned a QC the captures I tried didn’t get me any better results than a typical modeler. The Kemper and IK offerings did sound a bit better. I may snag in of these to try for fun. Right now the Tone X is sounding just fine for me.

 

[JCW308]

For $150 more you get:

(Probably) a better gate
Transpose
Delay
Modulation
Expression Pedal
Onboard capturing
MIDI over USB
etc.

(Also: I don't know if you've ever used a ToneX pedal, but NDSP would have needed to try really hard to make the Nano less pleasant.)

Don't forget twisty foot switches.

 

[yeky83]

Other than the stupid non-use of endless encoders, I actually really like the UI.
Amp controls, amount of mod/dly/rev, that's all you really need right on the face.

I'd get this over the "goldilocks for no one in terms of price & size" Kemper Player or the IK mess of a Tonex--no IK, I'm not capitalizing every letter in your stupid product name.

BUT THIS DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE HX STOMP, HX STOMP REIGNS SUPREEEEEME

 

[mbenigni]

It doesn't come with a Power Supply?

After Wallwartgate, who can blame them LOL.