2dor
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Yes. The Plini and Gojira for now
NDSP Quad Cortex
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I wasn't paying attention at the time so I don't know the answer to this, but how was it advertised? Was it listed in a spec sheet on their web site for the product when it was released?
2dor
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They promised it on various channels (forums, interviews etc) leading to launch.
Do you have any links? Just curious what the origin of all the angst is.
laxu
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They had it on the product website as a "coming after release item", same as the editor. They then started cutting some of these down. You can probably find the original page on Wayback Machine if you want.
If you believed their blog pages, things like the editor, hybrid switching etc seemed like features deep in development, only missing the release date by a month or two. But a lot of those were apparently nothing but design mockups.
On forums they were calling a lot of things "easy" and "soon". Including a graphic EQ that looks like one, but that somehow took them several years.
I can’t find any mention of plugin support in the wayback machine around 2020 and 2021. Interestingly, prior to the release, the page did show what appears to be an editor app. In fairness though, right next to that is a disclaimer saying specifications are subject to change.
laxu
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I swear I remember it being there as some one line blurb...but can't be sure.
I do think they at least promised it somewhere when the QC was nearing release. Another one of those "should be easy to do" things that no developer wants to hear a CEO say...
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That is my recollection too. Maybe they've tried to retcon it.
Did they promise a date for plugin support? Or was it a vague “soon”? Either way it would be interesting if anybody has a link to the promise, just to see what’s the basis for the complaints about plugin support.
laxu
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Found it, it was on the very first version of the page in the FAQ section.
- Do Neural DSP plugins come with QC?
Not by default as of now, but we will send a free plugin update in a Cortex compatible format to everyone who owns our plugins so they can be loaded onto the device. - If I have bought Neural DSP plugins, can I get them on QC?
We will send a free plugin update in a Cortex compatible format to everyone who owns our plugins so the modules in them can be loaded onto the device.
So no timeline, but it's something that they used to sell the unit.
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[Nathan]
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I mean do we need it? It was promised and spoken about pre launch in 2021. They were also known as “the” amp sim company bringing out their own unit. The association to run their own plugins in their own unit is a no brainer
[Nathan]
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Can they be run on the qc right now? I’m not upto date and haven’t seen any videos of it in action. Would be cool to see.
laxu
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No, they do not. Most manufacturers make product pages that only list what the device is capable of doing right now, or features that are guaranteed to happen in a reasonable timeframe (not within several years). Most also add a "specifications subject to change" disclaimer somewhere.
NDSP made the mistake of advertising features that were a long way off from happening, and took pre-orders from people based on promising those features. For example this is what the first pre-order page says about the desktop editor:
- Is there a desktop controller?
Yes. The desktop controller will be available at no cost when Quad Cortex ships.
When the QC finally was released after being delayed, I estimated it would take them 1-2 years to get all the promised things and improvements into play, but as usual, I was wildly optimistic about that. Based on their blog posts I assumed the editor was well on its way and would be released later the same year the QC released.
2dor
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Not yet. Supposedly CorOs 3.0 ought to be out before the end of Q2 2024 which is a few days away now.
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He asks whether the user will be able to run all their plugins (which is what “plug-in compatibility” would properly connote), so it’s more of a, “Yes, but no.”
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So from what I get ... and just now reading their NEWS updates section:-
-> the new FW will drop [hopefully] in the next few weeks
-> there are currently 2 x " X " versions of the Plugins awaiting this FW
-> 2 more " X " versions will be available for this new FW on its release
-> if you already own any of these 4 will be able to just d/l the QC X version for free
-> if you buy any of these 4 now you will get the PC version now ... and the X version once the FW drops
-> the rest of the current ~20 or so plugins not yet X-re-coded, will be X-re-coded over time - but no timeframe is specified
-> very interestingly [to me] .... brand new Plugin releases - ie: ones not currently in existence - will not come with the X version but rather they will be added to the list of all plugins to-re-do for X coding for the QC over time ... presumably this is to keep the $$ coming it (?)
Have I got this right ?
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It’s even simpler. Two plugins will be compatible after the next FW update. The rest, SOON. (Not really)
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The QC won’t “run” the plugins. They have remodeled the plugins devices and they will be blocks available on the QC. There really won’t be much to demo, it’s like any other amp or effect being added, just for people that own the plugin.
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This is as it should be. The question is whether it will be so… and when.
(Insert “S O O N” joke.)
